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So IANAL but could you use this if you owned MS Office? Presumably there is some kind of license for clip art specifically since it's for reuse.

colejohnson66 6y ago
So, I looked it up, and this seems to be the important part:[a][0] > 3. You may use clip art for personal, noncommercial uses. So, that’s that. A personal website or blog is ok, but not a commercial website.[b] [a]: Couldn’t find it in a quick skim on the EULA [b]: So it seems years ago, a lot of mom and pop shops violated that part... [0]: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-windows_programs/what-are-the-copyright-rules-concerning-use-of/741f069b-a52e-4688-b19e-dee05180fc3a https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vi...
- dehrmann 6y ago
  Wow, that feels like BS. They sell a product called "Office" to businesses, then say parts of it weren't licensed for commercial use. Then you have to ask how the bundled fonts were licensed, because it'd be weird to license those for commercial use, but not the clipart.
  - badsectoracula 6y ago
    AFAIK fonts are not copyrightable in most countries, what is copyrightable is the font file itself (of course) as well as the code (if any) for vector fonts that produces them. However using the font isn't copyrightable. The design might be under design patent and the name trademarked, but not the font itself and these really cover the entire font designs, not their applications. Someone printing a paper with the font isn't infringing on any copyright. At least that is my understanding of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protection_of_typefaces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protecti...
    - colejohnson66 6y ago
      As for the part that is copyrighted, it’s not just the code that makes the fonts (like what metafont would be), but also the bytecode embedded in the font file (for kerning and other things).
      - badsectoracula 6y ago
        Yes that is what i meant. The curves aren't copyrightable since those aren't code, but the bytecode is copyrightable.

colejohnson66 6y ago

So, I looked it up, and this seems to be the important part:[a][0] > 3. You may use clip art for personal, noncommercial uses. So, that’s that. A personal website or blog is ok, but not a commercial website.[b] [a]: Couldn’t find it in a quick skim on the EULA [b]: So it seems years ago, a lot of mom and pop shops violated that part... [0]: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-windows_programs/what-are-the-copyright-rules-concerning-use-of/741f069b-a52e-4688-b19e-dee05180fc3a https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vi...

dehrmann 6y ago
Wow, that feels like BS. They sell a product called "Office" to businesses, then say parts of it weren't licensed for commercial use. Then you have to ask how the bundled fonts were licensed, because it'd be weird to license those for commercial use, but not the clipart.
- badsectoracula 6y ago
  AFAIK fonts are not copyrightable in most countries, what is copyrightable is the font file itself (of course) as well as the code (if any) for vector fonts that produces them. However using the font isn't copyrightable. The design might be under design patent and the name trademarked, but not the font itself and these really cover the entire font designs, not their applications. Someone printing a paper with the font isn't infringing on any copyright. At least that is my understanding of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protection_of_typefaces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protecti...
  - colejohnson66 6y ago
    As for the part that is copyrighted, it’s not just the code that makes the fonts (like what metafont would be), but also the bytecode embedded in the font file (for kerning and other things).
    - badsectoracula 6y ago
      Yes that is what i meant. The curves aren't copyrightable since those aren't code, but the bytecode is copyrightable.