I don't think we disagree. I hadn't heard of Van Jacobson but a quick glance at his wikipedia doesn't make it look like he was just a "pure coder" in the cartoo

I don't think we disagree. I hadn't heard of Van Jacobson but a quick glance at his wikipedia doesn't make it look like he was just a "pure coder" in the cartoonish sense of someone who doesn't know what's important and can't collaborate with others.