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But no one has ever, once (AFAIK) gotten caught doing that. Surely if this was the kind of widespread thing you're imagining SOMEONE would have put a camera on
by newacct583 6y ago
But no one has ever, once (AFAIK) gotten caught doing that. Surely if this was the kind of widespread thing you're imagining SOMEONE would have put a camera on one of those boxes and caught someone?
I mean, just think about it: this is completely impractical. To "steal" any one election you need to swing thousands of ballots. Each box holds a few dozen ballots at a time at most. You'd be talking about a huge crime spree to manage to collect and resubmit all those ballots.
And yet... we've never seen it happen. The simple truth is that stealing elections doesn't happen because it's too expensive vs. just winning elections with more persuasive arguments.
- SV_BubbleTime 6y agoI don’t like the idea of saying that this isn’t fraud because no one‘s ever been caught doing it. Everyone, every state, every side, every ideologue should be jumping up and down for 100% transparency. and if anyone saying we really have that they are a liar.
- newacct583 6y ago"Transparency" isn't free, though. You take those boxes away and now a bunch of people who rely on them for easy access can't vote. Mail takes too long (and is subject to the same criticism). People with long commutes can't be at home on election day. People with hourly jobs can't take the time off. People without cars can't get there. And all those demographics have a partisan skew. So when you say "transparency", in the absence of any proof of real fraud, is what other people hear as "suppression". We don't think you care about voter fraud at all, we think you just want more republican votes. Is that not true? Then come to the table in good faith and find a compromise. There are many (e.g. voting day holidays, guarded drop boxes, etc...). Republicans have blocked them every time they come up.