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So not sure then do lockdown anyway?

by matz1 6y ago

smcl 6y ago
Well we actually have a very good idea of how many people would die of Covid if the entire population of the UK got Covid. We don't know how many people have ... whatever you are proposing we compare that against. So faced with the options of "prevent the deaths of over a million people" and "matz1 doesn't like lockdown but doesn't want to talk about or quantify it" I think the choice is pretty clear. Unless you want to elaborate further?
- matz1 6y ago
  whats the evidence that lockdown can 'prevent the deaths of over a million people' ? Keep in mind Lockdown can cause death as well.
  - smcl 6y ago
    This is coming from the figures the other anti-lockdown guy gave for the number of deaths they expect - 2% deaths of the UK population is ~1.32 million people. If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid. If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start. What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that. You’ve decided that’s a lost cause and have moved onto “lockdown causes death” ! Amazing.
    - matz1 6y ago
      >If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid Likewise If you get covid, doesn't mean you will die from covid. vast majority of people will be fine. >If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start Maybe you don't get covid but if you lockdown, you may suffer/die from starving/mental health issue instead. >What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that Is it really hard to think that lockdown would cause at least some unemployment, some bankruptcy, some mental health issue ? >“lockdown causes death” Unemployment has long been associated with a significantly increased risk of death. I don't have the precise number but how are you sure that the damage from virus is greater than damage from lockdown ?

So not sure then do lockdown anyway?

by matz1 6y ago

So not sure then do lockdown anyway?

smcl 6y ago

Well we actually have a very good idea of how many people would die of Covid if the entire population of the UK got Covid. We don't know how many people have ... whatever you are proposing we compare that against. So faced with the options of "prevent the deaths of over a million people" and "matz1 doesn't like lockdown but doesn't want to talk about or quantify it" I think the choice is pretty clear. Unless you want to elaborate further?

matz1 6y ago
whats the evidence that lockdown can 'prevent the deaths of over a million people' ? Keep in mind Lockdown can cause death as well.
- smcl 6y ago
  This is coming from the figures the other anti-lockdown guy gave for the number of deaths they expect - 2% deaths of the UK population is ~1.32 million people. If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid. If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start. What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that. You’ve decided that’s a lost cause and have moved onto “lockdown causes death” ! Amazing.
  - matz1 6y ago
    >If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid Likewise If you get covid, doesn't mean you will die from covid. vast majority of people will be fine. >If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start Maybe you don't get covid but if you lockdown, you may suffer/die from starving/mental health issue instead. >What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that Is it really hard to think that lockdown would cause at least some unemployment, some bankruptcy, some mental health issue ? >“lockdown causes death” Unemployment has long been associated with a significantly increased risk of death. I don't have the precise number but how are you sure that the damage from virus is greater than damage from lockdown ?