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As supposed of advocating lockdown ? How many million of people would suffer from lockdown?

by matz1 6y ago

smcl 6y ago
Really not sure how to perform that comparison. How do we equate one death vs one "suffer", and how do we count the "suffers" of people who take ill of covid in the free-for-all scenario? I think the ball is in your court on this one but, frankly, good luck
- matz1 6y ago
  So not sure then do lockdown anyway?
  - smcl 6y ago
    Well we actually have a very good idea of how many people would die of Covid if the entire population of the UK got Covid. We don't know how many people have ... whatever you are proposing we compare that against. So faced with the options of "prevent the deaths of over a million people" and "matz1 doesn't like lockdown but doesn't want to talk about or quantify it" I think the choice is pretty clear. Unless you want to elaborate further?
    - matz1 6y ago
      whats the evidence that lockdown can 'prevent the deaths of over a million people' ? Keep in mind Lockdown can cause death as well.
      - smcl 6y ago
        This is coming from the figures the other anti-lockdown guy gave for the number of deaths they expect - 2% deaths of the UK population is ~1.32 million people. If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid. If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start. What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that. You’ve decided that’s a lost cause and have moved onto “lockdown causes death” ! Amazing.
        matz1 6y ago
        >If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid Likewise If you get covid, doesn't mean you will die from covid. vast majority of people will be fine. >If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start Maybe you don't get covid but if you lockdown, you may suffer/die from starving/mental health issue instead. >What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that Is it really hard to think that lockdown would cause at least some unemployment, some bankruptcy, some mental health issue ? >“lockdown causes death” Unemployment has long been associated with a significantly increased risk of death. I don't have the precise number but how are you sure that the damage from virus is greater than damage from lockdown ?

As supposed of advocating lockdown ? How many million of people would suffer from lockdown?

by matz1 6y ago

As supposed of advocating lockdown ? How many million of people would suffer from lockdown?

smcl 6y ago

Really not sure how to perform that comparison. How do we equate one death vs one "suffer", and how do we count the "suffers" of people who take ill of covid in the free-for-all scenario? I think the ball is in your court on this one but, frankly, good luck

matz1 6y ago
So not sure then do lockdown anyway?
- smcl 6y ago
  Well we actually have a very good idea of how many people would die of Covid if the entire population of the UK got Covid. We don't know how many people have ... whatever you are proposing we compare that against. So faced with the options of "prevent the deaths of over a million people" and "matz1 doesn't like lockdown but doesn't want to talk about or quantify it" I think the choice is pretty clear. Unless you want to elaborate further?
  - matz1 6y ago
    whats the evidence that lockdown can 'prevent the deaths of over a million people' ? Keep in mind Lockdown can cause death as well.
    - smcl 6y ago
      This is coming from the figures the other anti-lockdown guy gave for the number of deaths they expect - 2% deaths of the UK population is ~1.32 million people. If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid. If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start. What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that. You’ve decided that’s a lost cause and have moved onto “lockdown causes death” ! Amazing.
      - matz1 6y ago
        >If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid Likewise If you get covid, doesn't mean you will die from covid. vast majority of people will be fine. >If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start Maybe you don't get covid but if you lockdown, you may suffer/die from starving/mental health issue instead. >What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that Is it really hard to think that lockdown would cause at least some unemployment, some bankruptcy, some mental health issue ? >“lockdown causes death” Unemployment has long been associated with a significantly increased risk of death. I don't have the precise number but how are you sure that the damage from virus is greater than damage from lockdown ?