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Here's the video in question: https://twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/1346920924310867968 https://twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/1346920924310867968

bitcurious 6y ago
It’s not clear to me that the direction the protesters walk is towards the capitol. They could just as easily be letting people who didn’t want to be associated with the rioting leave the protest.
jmull 6y ago
But what does that show? Those people are being let past a barrier to where a lot of other people already are. So it doesn't look like they are getting let in to a restricted area. Maybe we're just seeing the police manage crowd flow. Without some context I don't see that this shows anything bad happening here.
- Rapzid 6y ago
  It's not even clear the barricades, which didn't even meet in middle, were even moved by the police. The only police I can clearly make out are in the center and when the camera zooms in I can't see who moved the barricades away. It's a bit amazing this video is being peddled around HN as evidence of anything; there is so little context.
  - noxer 6y ago
    So we should delete it just in case ryt? Or at least put a message under it that makes sure people use their brain even less because they are told that the video shows something but has no context and thus should only be used for entertaining purpose.
    - Rapzid 6y ago
      I guess that's up to Twitter, but I doubt random no-name user is on their radar as a person of authority spreading misinformation.
OJFord 6y ago
I don't have a horse in this and I don't know the area to maybe spot something about it that makes it look worse, but isn't that/couldn't it just be 'kettling'? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling
- mikeyouse 6y ago
  Kettling involves directing protestors to an area to be arrested or otherwise forced to leave -- not to allow them easier access to join the rest of the rioters at the Capitol.
  - OJFord 6y ago
    But does the video show them having 'access to join the rest of the rioters at the Capitol', or does it just show them being allowed to move from one area to another? (Not knowing the area/layout/etc. as I said) I just see the latter, with it implied they're about to rush up the steps, but where they go (there or otherwise) unshown.

bitcurious 6y ago

It’s not clear to me that the direction the protesters walk is towards the capitol. They could just as easily be letting people who didn’t want to be associated with the rioting leave the protest.

jmull 6y ago

But what does that show? Those people are being let past a barrier to where a lot of other people already are. So it doesn't look like they are getting let in to a restricted area. Maybe we're just seeing the police manage crowd flow. Without some context I don't see that this shows anything bad happening here.

Rapzid 6y ago
It's not even clear the barricades, which didn't even meet in middle, were even moved by the police. The only police I can clearly make out are in the center and when the camera zooms in I can't see who moved the barricades away. It's a bit amazing this video is being peddled around HN as evidence of anything; there is so little context.
- noxer 6y ago
  So we should delete it just in case ryt? Or at least put a message under it that makes sure people use their brain even less because they are told that the video shows something but has no context and thus should only be used for entertaining purpose.
  - Rapzid 6y ago
    I guess that's up to Twitter, but I doubt random no-name user is on their radar as a person of authority spreading misinformation.

OJFord 6y ago

I don't have a horse in this and I don't know the area to maybe spot something about it that makes it look worse, but isn't that/couldn't it just be 'kettling'? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling

mikeyouse 6y ago
Kettling involves directing protestors to an area to be arrested or otherwise forced to leave -- not to allow them easier access to join the rest of the rioters at the Capitol.
- OJFord 6y ago
  But does the video show them having 'access to join the rest of the rioters at the Capitol', or does it just show them being allowed to move from one area to another? (Not knowing the area/layout/etc. as I said) I just see the latter, with it implied they're about to rush up the steps, but where they go (there or otherwise) unshown.