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What were the three tweets?

DenisM 6y ago
Here’s one: These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever! https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTr...
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  I think I get the logic. "Go home" is de-escalating, but "sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long" is repeating the same claim that's stoking the madness, and repeating it in very incendiary terms. Yeah, it might be reasonable to ban that.
  - throwawaybchr 6y ago
    The order is important. Despite outrageous A, de-escalate and do B. Had it been the other way around I would agree with you.
    - conistonwater 6y ago
      There is no "despite" in that tweet.
      - throwawaybchr 6y ago
        Isn't it implicit? "We scored a goal, the umpire didn't see it and they stole our championship away from us. This is a disgrace. Go home in peace"
        conistonwater 6y ago
        No, it's not implicit. Why is your football analogy reasonable at all? There is also the matter of the general pattern of conduct that president Trump has established over the last few months, which is more relevant here. If you tell people that the election is being stolen and as patriotic Americans they ought to do something about it, as he has been doing, and you keep saying that for quite a while, you then lose the claim that there is an implicit "despite" in anything you say, especially since the call to civility is such a small part of the tweet. If you look at all the other things he's said the calls to civility are also quite small and token there too. Like most people, if he wanted to say it he's quite capable of saying it properly. So it's not implicit, it's just a rhetorical tactic he uses.
        read_if_gay_ 6y ago
        You're making the case that Trump is inciting violence despite him explicitely deescalating, based on literally how many words were spent on deescalating vs. anything else, among other things. I think just the fact that this is such a hair-splitting discussion makes it very evident Twitter shouldn't have banned him for "severe violations".
  - conistonwater 6y ago
    That's always the pattern, isn't it? One minute of ranting about fake grievances followed by a one-second token nod to civility.
- Rapzid 6y ago
  This one is perhaps more shocking: Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!

Here’s one: These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever! https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTr...

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
I think I get the logic. "Go home" is de-escalating, but "sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long" is repeating the same claim that's stoking the madness, and repeating it in very incendiary terms. Yeah, it might be reasonable to ban that.
- throwawaybchr 6y ago
  The order is important. Despite outrageous A, de-escalate and do B. Had it been the other way around I would agree with you.
  - conistonwater 6y ago
    There is no "despite" in that tweet.
    - throwawaybchr 6y ago
      Isn't it implicit? "We scored a goal, the umpire didn't see it and they stole our championship away from us. This is a disgrace. Go home in peace"
      - conistonwater 6y ago
        No, it's not implicit. Why is your football analogy reasonable at all? There is also the matter of the general pattern of conduct that president Trump has established over the last few months, which is more relevant here. If you tell people that the election is being stolen and as patriotic Americans they ought to do something about it, as he has been doing, and you keep saying that for quite a while, you then lose the claim that there is an implicit "despite" in anything you say, especially since the call to civility is such a small part of the tweet. If you look at all the other things he's said the calls to civility are also quite small and token there too. Like most people, if he wanted to say it he's quite capable of saying it properly. So it's not implicit, it's just a rhetorical tactic he uses.
        read_if_gay_ 6y ago
        You're making the case that Trump is inciting violence despite him explicitely deescalating, based on literally how many words were spent on deescalating vs. anything else, among other things. I think just the fact that this is such a hair-splitting discussion makes it very evident Twitter shouldn't have banned him for "severe violations".
- conistonwater 6y ago
  That's always the pattern, isn't it? One minute of ranting about fake grievances followed by a one-second token nod to civility.
Rapzid 6y ago
This one is perhaps more shocking: Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!