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this is censorship, which twitter is allowed to do on their site. i think communication platforms should allow all (legal) posts

GloriousKoji 6y ago
Ironically I feel as if by censoring Trump, twitter is performing an act of free speech.
- danhak 6y ago
  Precisely. YOU cannot compel ME to repeat what YOU said. That is ME asserting MY free speech.
- klyrs 6y ago
  It's an act of free association, also protected by the first amendment.
freen 6y ago
Sedition isn’t legal.
chrstphrknwtn 6y ago
Censorship is the state saying "you cannot say this". Trump is still free to say whatever he likes, and Twitter is still free to moderate its platform.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  per the dictionary it doesn't require the government in order to be "censorship."
  - ta2987 6y ago
    It requires the government to be illegal.
- foolfoolz 6y ago
  great doublespeak: you’re not censored, you’re being “moderated”
majormajor 6y ago
> i think communication platforms should allow all (legal) posts Do you? Really? Seems like everything would just be a spam-and-troll-filled wasteland... There's nothing that prevents the President from being one of those trolls, and there's no strong reason for any given platform to give him special treatment forever if he persists in that behavior...
- kflzufkrbzi 6y ago
  What you consider trolling might be someones genuine behavior. And your behavior can be seen as trolling by someone else. I dont want some arbitrary person or company to have the say who is trolling and who is not. Thats why I dont use facebook or twitter.
  - majormajor 6y ago
    You shouldn't use HN, then. There are mods here. (Which is good, just like having a bouncer at a bar - punching someone in the face may be someone's genuine behavior, but it's not very welcome.)
    - foolfoolz 6y ago
      punching someone is assault. no one is arguing for a platform that allows illegal posts
      - majormajor 6y ago
        Yawn. Find less lazy talking points. Let's substitute "kicked out of a bar for being a loud obnoxious asshole" then, because that's also unwelcome despite not being illegal, and maps very well to trolling an online forum. You're very eager to weaken the private property rights of others, as well as to give a LOT of power to the government (legality as the only consideration) and I don't think these thing would work out for you like you hope.

GloriousKoji 6y ago

Ironically I feel as if by censoring Trump, twitter is performing an act of free speech.

danhak 6y ago
Precisely. YOU cannot compel ME to repeat what YOU said. That is ME asserting MY free speech.
klyrs 6y ago
It's an act of free association, also protected by the first amendment.

freen 6y ago

Sedition isn’t legal.

chrstphrknwtn 6y ago

Censorship is the state saying "you cannot say this". Trump is still free to say whatever he likes, and Twitter is still free to moderate its platform.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago
per the dictionary it doesn't require the government in order to be "censorship."
- ta2987 6y ago
  It requires the government to be illegal.
foolfoolz 6y ago
great doublespeak: you’re not censored, you’re being “moderated”

majormajor 6y ago

> i think communication platforms should allow all (legal) posts Do you? Really? Seems like everything would just be a spam-and-troll-filled wasteland... There's nothing that prevents the President from being one of those trolls, and there's no strong reason for any given platform to give him special treatment forever if he persists in that behavior...

kflzufkrbzi 6y ago
What you consider trolling might be someones genuine behavior. And your behavior can be seen as trolling by someone else. I dont want some arbitrary person or company to have the say who is trolling and who is not. Thats why I dont use facebook or twitter.
- majormajor 6y ago
  You shouldn't use HN, then. There are mods here. (Which is good, just like having a bouncer at a bar - punching someone in the face may be someone's genuine behavior, but it's not very welcome.)
  - foolfoolz 6y ago
    punching someone is assault. no one is arguing for a platform that allows illegal posts
    - majormajor 6y ago
      Yawn. Find less lazy talking points. Let's substitute "kicked out of a bar for being a loud obnoxious asshole" then, because that's also unwelcome despite not being illegal, and maps very well to trolling an online forum. You're very eager to weaken the private property rights of others, as well as to give a LOT of power to the government (legality as the only consideration) and I don't think these thing would work out for you like you hope.