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LBRY does to publishing, what Bitcoin did to money
- egypturnash 6y agoSo LBRY turns publishing into a massive pyramid scheme that wastes an obscene amount of power, then?
- qqn 6y agoNot as bad as Steemit though
- jimbob45 6y agoYou joke but I genuinely don’t know what the site is about based on their front page.
- ALittleLight 6y agohttps://odysee.com/ https://odysee.com/ is an example of a YouTube like page built in LBRY. I don't know much about it, but it seems to play videos.
- andreskytt 6y agoIt seems to attempt to play videos. The one embedded on the front page referenced would not load. Not a great look
- arcticbull 6y agoOooh, LBRY allows narcotics traffickers to launder the proceeds of crime, and supports North Korea's effort to nuclearize?
- Reedx 6y agoIs gold a pyramid scheme?
- evolve2k 6y agoHow does it address misinformation and disinformation? Seems highly irresponsible if it’s not designing for this.
- stretchcat 6y agoHow does the Apache web server address misinformation and disinformation? Seems highly irresponsible if it's not designed for this. /s
- theamk 6y agoApache web server by itself does not provide content. It also needs: - A machine to run on -- which needs money and a real person. This adds some (small) measure of accountability. - A way for people to find the site. So it must be linked enough that search engines pick it, or shared via some other method. I feel this is the primary we address misinformation -- by not linking to it. It seems that LBRY claims to not require either. So a misinformation/disinformation video will stay there forever.
- Barrin92 6y agoit's going to be so mindnumbingly slow and impossible to monetize that it'll turn all the people away who buy into disinformation. The only good thing coming out of all this blockchain stuff is that it's too bad to actually be abused because it scales to about ten people
- jojobas 6y agoIt doesn't even address racism or (gasp) inequality! Neither does the wheel, btw.
- hirundo 6y ago"LBRY differs from the status quo in three big ways: 1. Coupled payment and access. If desired, the person who publishes to lbry://rhapsody-film#e1029aaa08bef8e9225efcbfb94a895e9bbdc8ea can charge a fee to users that view the content. 2. Decentralized and distributed. Content published to LBRY is not specific to one computer or network, making LBRY robust to failure and disruption. 3. Community controlled. No party other than the publisher (including us) can unilaterally remove or block content on the LBRY network." I wonder if this scales well to micro-publishing, say as a protocol for an unmoderate-able twitter.
- TylerE 6y agoGiven that it's a blockchain, I doubt it scales to anything.
- arcticbull 6y agoOh be nice, it scales. To 7. Yep, just 7.
- sillysaurusx 6y agoOoh. I've been waiting for something like this for damn near two decades. It was the original promise of the internet: free and open access to all information, regardless of whether that makes people uncomfortable. And this protocol even gives you control over monetization options. Still, they have a big hurdle. It all comes down to whether it'll be adopted. First impressions of the MacOS app: Loading time was long, but onboarding was effortless. Threw me right into the app. Immense disappointment when I realized it was for video, not books. Gave a video a try, "A better way to split firewood." Since there's no URL bar, there doesn't seem to be any obvious way to link someone to a video. But! There's a web version: https://odysee.com/@SicCooper:1/3d-all-stars-super-mario-64-episode-12:5 https://odysee.com/@SicCooper:1/3d-all-stars-super-mario-64-... Seems like... youtube. Hmmm. First impressions are ... surprisingly positive. This is somehow an almost-complete, fully working clone of Youtube. There are missing features, but I can look past that. The recommendation engine is obviously the biggest weakness, since there's probably not much content to recommend. But I found myself watching https://odysee.com/@atthespeedoflife:b/it-may-not-be-adhd-pandas-lyme-cirs-mom:b https://odysee.com/@atthespeedoflife:b/it-may-not-be-adhd-pa... Pleasantly surprised to find a 2x speed setting. The production quality of the video is good too. No problems whatsoever. This got me curious: How hard would it be to set up my own channel? So I clicked sign in, and was delighted to discover they have a "sync my youtube" checkbox. ... Unfortunately, after creating my account, there's no sign of where the "Sync my youtube" feature went to. I checked the box, but there wasn't any prompt or further info. Well, back to watching. The production quality on these videos is actually incredible. This one has 6 views: https://odysee.com/@AlphaPhoenix:f/why-are-metals-so-stretchy-2-13-sub:4 https://odysee.com/@AlphaPhoenix:f/why-are-metals-so-stretch... "Why are metals so stretchy?" I got a bit suspicious, so I checked youtube. Yep, it's on there too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn1Y6zIS91g&ab_channel=AlphaPhoenix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn1Y6zIS91g&ab_channel=Alpha... They have 14k subscribers, which isn't huge, but is significantly greater than "nothing." Did LBRY somehow convince people to sign up and cross-post their videos, or are they simply hosting random videos? Now I'm curious where it's hosted. This is interesting enough to give a fair shot. I'll be watching it closely. Their FAQ is a solid resource: https://lbry.com/faq https://lbry.com/faq I'm mostly curious how they pulled off a fully-working clone of YouTube. That's an incredible achievement, setting aside all the questions it raises. I see that Google banned them, which honestly makes me want to support LBRY more. Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24594663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24594663
- worik 6y ago"LBRY does to publishing, what Bitcoin did to money (lbry.com)" That is, nothing
- m00x 6y agoYou forget that it unlocked the full potential of moving crime money.
- hiimtroymclure 6y agoimagine if I said this: "cell phones have unlocked the full potential of sending crime communications". should we ban cell phones?
- worik 6y agoYes please, can we?
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- myWindoonn 6y agoBecause of the fundamental nature of DRM, the LBRY toolchain is not able to actually enforce the idea that users will pay a fee to view content. Perhaps one user will pay once, but that is not the same as what LBRY is selling to independent artists.
- m463 6y agoThat's what I was wondering. why couldn't people turn this into a "lending library" where they download the media, then re-sell the access token, maybe 100 times a second? Is it computationally expensive to get to the media each time?
- generationP 6y agoNever trust a site with autostarting audio.
- lights0123 6y agoWhat browser are you using that hasn't blocked autoplay audio? Firefox, Chrome, and WebKit all didn't on my computer.
- teorema 6y agoFWIW, Firefox has become unpredictable in it's blocking of autoplay for me. It works for me almost all the time it seems, but every so often something will autoply anyway. I can't figure out the exceptions, and don't know why Firefox allows them. It seems fairly straightforward to me.
- generationP 6y agoChrome on mobile. I do block scripts on my computer, but on mobile I haven't bothered so far.
- rodonn 6y agoSeems like it will end up primarily being CSAM (child sex abuse material), pirated copyrighted materials, and other content that reputable hosts restrict. Unclear why anyone who has legal content for which they own the rights would want to use this. If you did publish your own original content, what stops someone else from downloading it and then re-uploading it with a lower fee?
- osgovernment 6y agoIt does nothing more for CSAM material than IPFS. Both can adequately block these from nodes too. It doesn't provide anonymity either, so I don't see how this will be primarily used for CSAM.
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago> Unclear why anyone who has legal content for which they own the rights would want to use this. It's Not YouTube. That's pretty compelling.
- thayne 6y ago> Unclear why anyone who has legal content for which they own the rights would want to use this. Because they don't want to use traditional content distribution channels that require content creators to agree to one-sided terms (in favor of the distributor).
- wintorez 6y agoWhat did Bitcoin do to money?
- theamk 6y agoI like how the harsh reality meets the blockchain dream: FROM: https://lbry.com/faq/censorship-resistance https://lbry.com/faq/censorship-resistance > How could LBRY be censored? > An internet service provider or network operator could conceivably censor traffic to the LBRY network entirely .... FROM: https://lbry.com/faq/trending https://lbry.com/faq/trending > Tag abuse and failure to apply appropriate tags will not be tolerated. Your channel may be filtered and rewards revoked. FROM: https://lbry.com/faq/dmca https://lbry.com/faq/dmca > Once validated, we will block access to content in any LBRY Inc. owned applications upon receipt of a DMCA takedown notice. [...] LBRY Inc. will also remove any data related to the infringing content from servers within its control. > The data may still exist on the original publisher's computer (and anyone who may have downloaded it prior to it being blocked) but will not be accessible through any LBRY Inc. controlled applications. so it is "censorship resistant" only when you use un-offical clients and do not care about being recommended.. which is to say, not very resistant at all.