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Speaking as a relatively conservative person, I would love "The Party" to tell Trump to stuff it, as I would have for the past 4 years. The reality is, if you a

Speaking as a relatively conservative person, I would love "The Party" to tell Trump to stuff it, as I would have for the past 4 years. The reality is, if you allow me to make a comparison, in the UK they had a similar situation in the Labor party with a leader chosen by the membership that was hated by "The Party". "The Party" went and told the leader to stuff it and eventually got rid of him. In the meantime they're on year 10 or 11 of continuous Tory rule, with at least another 3 ahead. It's really nice for left wing types to talk about Republicans doing the right thing and going to all out war with Trump for the health of the democracy, I want him gone too. But the Realpolitik for Republicans on that one is a bunch of self sacrifice while the Democrats enjoy their endless summer. I don't really blame them for taking the path they did, even though I abjectly hate it.

manfredo 6y ago
Support for Trump was understandable in 2016 when it was unclear how he would actually behave in the Presidency. Most Republicans I know saw it as a faustian bargian: have a Republican wacko in the White House or a Democrat. But I really don't see this persisting in 2020. I would not be surprised if Republicans employ ranked choice voting for their primary, or increase the number of superdelegates or otherwise take steps to avoid one primary candidate succeeding through appealing to a minority of Republican primary voters. We're already seeing Republicans like Romney distinguishing himself through opposition to Trump. Ultimately who knows - Trump might actually live up to his promise to run in 2024. But I am dubious that Trumpism will be anything but an aberration in the party. He managed to lose as an incumbent. That's a substantial failure, and one I think Republicans will remember.
- polka_haunts_us 6y ago
  I agree, unless the GOP leadership already has been filled with his true believers (I don't know, I don't pay good enough attention), they're going to go the Democrat route with a lot more institutional control to prevent a Trump type from winning again. At the end of the day, the last thing any party machine wants is to be marginalized by a single member, especially an entryist like Trump.

manfredo 6y ago

Support for Trump was understandable in 2016 when it was unclear how he would actually behave in the Presidency. Most Republicans I know saw it as a faustian bargian: have a Republican wacko in the White House or a Democrat. But I really don't see this persisting in 2020. I would not be surprised if Republicans employ ranked choice voting for their primary, or increase the number of superdelegates or otherwise take steps to avoid one primary candidate succeeding through appealing to a minority of Republican primary voters. We're already seeing Republicans like Romney distinguishing himself through opposition to Trump. Ultimately who knows - Trump might actually live up to his promise to run in 2024. But I am dubious that Trumpism will be anything but an aberration in the party. He managed to lose as an incumbent. That's a substantial failure, and one I think Republicans will remember.

polka_haunts_us 6y ago
I agree, unless the GOP leadership already has been filled with his true believers (I don't know, I don't pay good enough attention), they're going to go the Democrat route with a lot more institutional control to prevent a Trump type from winning again. At the end of the day, the last thing any party machine wants is to be marginalized by a single member, especially an entryist like Trump.