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The police in the capital building were on video shaking these "protesters" hands.

ImaCake 6y ago
This has historical precedent. The far-right in the Weimar republic were treated far more softly than the communists were. The complicit behaviour of the authorities definitely played favourites and can probably be partially blamed for what happened.
pera 6y ago
Here are two examples of this: https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520 https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419... https://mobile.twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/1346920924310867968 https://mobile.twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/134692092431...
- maccam94 6y ago
  If you look at the very end of the second video, you can see that the camera pans behind the cameraman and shows a bunch of people trespassing beyond the barricades. The position the police were defending was already compromised.
  - rewq4321 6y ago
    I was thinking the same thing, but then, what's the reasoning behind moving the barricades out of the way? "There are too many protestors, we need to help them move the barricades" doesn't make sense. They then turn their backs on the protestors and casually walk towards the capitol. More surprising is that this protest wasn't a "flash mob" - it was planned and known about publicly for weeks - even promoted by the president. Why were they so unprepared? Certainly possible that the explanation was "sheer incompetence" in both cases.
ashtonkem 6y ago
They let them in; there are videos of them opening the cordons around the building. Some cops were either in on it, or at least sympathetic. They need to be dragged before Congress next month to answer for their behavior, assuming the republic survives. https://mobile.twitter.com/sugaspov/status/1346919943238000645 https://mobile.twitter.com/sugaspov/status/13469199432380006...
- jmull 6y ago
  That videos shows people being let in to where a bunch of people already are. I’m not sure I see anything wrong here? Is this just crowd flow control in action?
  - jcomis 6y ago
    Oh, so because some people are already there, they get to just abandon the idea behind their job? What juvenile take on responsibility.
    - minkzilla 6y ago
      I think the comment you are replying to is saying that the area the cops let those people into was either already over run and they were moving to a different place to keep people out. Or that it was area the people were allowed to be in, hence the other non cops in the area and so it’s not a problem that they were let it. Not that the cops were just abandoning there job and letting people into an area they shouldn’t have. I have no context for where this is and if it’s true but I think you are misrepresenting the above comment.
      - freeone3000 6y ago
        This is the perimeter barricade around the capitol building. Today, this was a do-not-cross line for anyone not working in the building... or it was supposed to be.
    - herewulf 6y ago
      Six policeman are unlikely to be able to hold a crowd like that back. They were probably told to fall back to concentrate their forces elsewhere. Removing the barriers prevents injury to the crowd. The Capitol Police seemed to be very ill prepared to deal with events today, which is quite sad given that the protest at least was no surprise.
grecy 6y ago
Which is surely a strong sign it's time to start arresting Police as accessories to terrorism. How can things get better unless that happens?
RhodoYolo 6y ago
Just because someone's wearing a police uniform doesn't meant they are cops. Everyone just believed they were cops.
joshstrange 6y ago
They also took selfies with them. The video can be found in this archive if it's been taken down: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/krx449/megathread_archiving_the_capitol_hill_riots/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/krx449/megathr...

This has historical precedent. The far-right in the Weimar republic were treated far more softly than the communists were. The complicit behaviour of the authorities definitely played favourites and can probably be partially blamed for what happened.

pera 6y ago

Here are two examples of this: https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520 https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419... https://mobile.twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/1346920924310867968 https://mobile.twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/134692092431...

maccam94 6y ago
If you look at the very end of the second video, you can see that the camera pans behind the cameraman and shows a bunch of people trespassing beyond the barricades. The position the police were defending was already compromised.
- rewq4321 6y ago
  I was thinking the same thing, but then, what's the reasoning behind moving the barricades out of the way? "There are too many protestors, we need to help them move the barricades" doesn't make sense. They then turn their backs on the protestors and casually walk towards the capitol. More surprising is that this protest wasn't a "flash mob" - it was planned and known about publicly for weeks - even promoted by the president. Why were they so unprepared? Certainly possible that the explanation was "sheer incompetence" in both cases.

ashtonkem 6y ago

They let them in; there are videos of them opening the cordons around the building. Some cops were either in on it, or at least sympathetic. They need to be dragged before Congress next month to answer for their behavior, assuming the republic survives. https://mobile.twitter.com/sugaspov/status/1346919943238000645 https://mobile.twitter.com/sugaspov/status/13469199432380006...

jmull 6y ago
That videos shows people being let in to where a bunch of people already are. I’m not sure I see anything wrong here? Is this just crowd flow control in action?
- jcomis 6y ago
  Oh, so because some people are already there, they get to just abandon the idea behind their job? What juvenile take on responsibility.
  - minkzilla 6y ago
    I think the comment you are replying to is saying that the area the cops let those people into was either already over run and they were moving to a different place to keep people out. Or that it was area the people were allowed to be in, hence the other non cops in the area and so it’s not a problem that they were let it. Not that the cops were just abandoning there job and letting people into an area they shouldn’t have. I have no context for where this is and if it’s true but I think you are misrepresenting the above comment.
    - freeone3000 6y ago
      This is the perimeter barricade around the capitol building. Today, this was a do-not-cross line for anyone not working in the building... or it was supposed to be.
  - herewulf 6y ago
    Six policeman are unlikely to be able to hold a crowd like that back. They were probably told to fall back to concentrate their forces elsewhere. Removing the barriers prevents injury to the crowd. The Capitol Police seemed to be very ill prepared to deal with events today, which is quite sad given that the protest at least was no surprise.

grecy 6y ago

Which is surely a strong sign it's time to start arresting Police as accessories to terrorism. How can things get better unless that happens?

RhodoYolo 6y ago

Just because someone's wearing a police uniform doesn't meant they are cops. Everyone just believed they were cops.

joshstrange 6y ago

They also took selfies with them. The video can be found in this archive if it's been taken down: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/krx449/megathread_archiving_the_capitol_hill_riots/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/krx449/megathr...