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they were forced into echo chambers because mainstream channels are their own echo chambers. thus the 2 realities the top post is referring to.
by devmunchies 6y ago
they were forced into echo chambers because mainstream channels are their own echo chambers.
thus the 2 realities the top post is referring to.
- slg 6y agoThey didn't leave the mainstream channels because they weren't allowed to speak. They left the mainstream channels because truth was not compatible with their worldview.
- coryfklein 6y agoAh, but is there any avenue for you to speak to them?
- slg 6y agoNo, because they left the mainstream channels. I am still watching the same basic channels, following the same basic reporters, and reading the same basic news that I did 5 or 10 years ago. They are the ones who left for alternatives. Just look at the recent moves from Fox News to OAN or Newsmax. They will go wherever they hear what they want to hear. If I went to those places to talk to them, they would go somewhere else.
- djsumdog 6y agoHave you tried any other sources? Because if you actually had, it's not that they're telling people what they want to hear. It's that they're showing the exact same things, except with the full clips and contexts. Go watch the George Floyd body cameras. All of them. The full 1 hour (30 min per officer). The story is ENTIRELY different than the one that was fed to us.
- slg 6y agoThis wasn't about George Floyd. It was about who won the election. What are your "other sources" saying about that?
- djsumdog 6y agoThe mainstream channels have constantly and blatantly lied to us about absolutely everything. Or have you forgotten Weapons of Mass Destruction, 15 days to flatten the curve, or the complete silencing of the Hunter Biden story (and it turns out he IS under active FBI investigation). People don't trust those channels because it's so easy to look at literally any other non-mainstream source to see how we've been constantly lied to.
- Retric 6y agoI think your underestimating how much of this is on mainstream news channels. Watching CNN arguably part of the liberal media you can hear people question the validity of the election an put forth conspiracy theories. “Sudden discovery of 50 thousand votes”, and suggestions that “Democratic counties reporting last” means they can arbitrarily add votes as needed. This isn’t some extreme view it’s being endorsed by both elected officials and pundits. I am genuinely concerned that people have forgotten just how fragile democracy is and are trying to score political points at the expense of critical institutions.
- klipt 6y ago> I am genuinely concerned that people have forgotten just how fragile democracy is and are trying to score political points at the expense of critical institutions. That's assuming the losing minority still wants democracy. Maybe they just want King-for-Life Trump.
- esoterica 6y agoJust because you don't like the truth doesn't mean you were "forced" into believing falsehoods.
- devmunchies 6y agoNews outlets act like they have a monopoly on truth, which you even believe, yet it's the truth about useless facts. Get CNN or Breitbart to report on Apple child labor, expose wall street, or expose the impact of consumer products on the environment and then I'll listen. political news is a waste of time and probably a net negative for an individual. That's MY truth which you won't find on CNN or breitbart's twitter feed. I actively avoid political news (it sucks it is showing up here on HN).
- TeaDrunk 6y agoCNN does cover apple child labor: https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/tech/apple-microsoft-tesla-dell-congo-cobalt-mining/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/tech/apple-microsoft-tesla-de... and consumder products on environment: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/world/plastic-pollution-2040-study-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/world/plastic-pollution-2040-... EDIT: I don't like CNN fwiw.
- devmunchies 6y agoCNN Business and CNN World are different than the main CNN Politics tv channel, right? I was mainly talking about political news, I do occasionally browse some mainstream business news.
- esoterica 6y agoWhy would Apple's labor violations be under CNN Politics? Apple is a business, not a political party.
- devmunchies 6y ago
- hooande 6y agoan alternative hypothesis is that they voluntarily isolated themselves into echo chambers because they didn't like the reality that the mainstream news was reporting