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This is what happens when a country's leaders actively dog whistle an incitement to violence and others hitch their political future to fiction & propaganda ins

This is what happens when a country's leaders actively dog whistle an incitement to violence and others hitch their political future to fiction & propaganda instead of fact.

eli 6y ago
It's not really a dog whistle. Just a few hours ago the President told his supporters gathered near the Whitehouse to march to the Capitol.
- mhh__ 6y ago
  "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"
  - graeme 6y ago
    That’s indirect, as is a dog whistle. The point is the president directly called for the occupation of the Capitol.
sneak 6y ago
It's a pretty sad response, then. I was expecting like a thousand mall ninjas with ARs. If this is all that side can muster, the hand-wringing about dogwhistles and complaints about the president's claims are even more overblown and irrelevant than they seemed.
- ineedasername 6y ago
  For the first time in our history the transfer of power has turned violent. One of the most important buildings in the country was violently invaded by a mob of rioters, resulting in 1 death so far. The fact that you or someone else thought it could be worse doesn't stop this being one of the worst assaults on our system of democracy in our history.
  - sneak 6y ago
    I don't think this has anything to do with the transfer of power. The power is being transferred, this protest has no bearing on that.
    - ineedasername 6y ago
      It was a riot against the exact process of the transfer of power, rioting under unproven & consistently debunked accusations literally as Congress was officiating the transfer of power. And it actually disrupted that process. The fact that the transfer of power will occur doesn't mean there wasn't violence involved along the way.
ntsplnkv2 6y ago
Anyone with a brain knew this was coming. Honestly it's shocking how many on HN try to defend it. This isn't a republican or democrat issue anymore after what Pence and McConnell said today. The man is a tyrant, and we should all be thankful it is not far, far worse than this.
- willis936 6y ago
  My nuclear family has been panicking about this day for months. I’ve assured them a coup is infeasible because Trump is incompetent. I have tried to get them to appreciate CGPGrey’s Rules for Rulers. Trump is too short sighted to realize that he needs to keep the keys to power happy. The military leaders will be happy to see him go.
- hairofadog 6y ago
  I agree with you; it’s disheartening to see how many people here are suggesting that “both sides” are more or less the same and that the real problem is the left and “MSM”. I expected more from this community.
- sharatvir 6y ago
  > Honestly it's shocking how many on HN try to defend it. Noticing a tendency among many in the tech community to take apolitical & "centrist" positions on many of these issues, which usually ends up with the blaming of "both sides". Being in the center when one side is so intent on going to the extreme right is not a virtue.
  - krapp 6y ago
    Most of them aren't actually centrists, as their centrist positions always impugn the left and forgive the right. They never play the "both sides are evil" card when talking about cancel culture or Benghazi or Obama drone-strikes or BLM, both sides are only evil when Trump, Republicans or Conservatives are criticized (implying that any criticism of the right is simply hypocrisy or left-wing tribalism, and therefore invalid.)
- gnulinux 6y ago

This is what happens when a country's leaders actively dog whistle an incitement to violence and others hitch their political future to fiction & propaganda instead of fact.

eli 6y ago

It's not really a dog whistle. Just a few hours ago the President told his supporters gathered near the Whitehouse to march to the Capitol.

mhh__ 6y ago
"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"
- graeme 6y ago
  That’s indirect, as is a dog whistle. The point is the president directly called for the occupation of the Capitol.

sneak 6y ago

It's a pretty sad response, then. I was expecting like a thousand mall ninjas with ARs. If this is all that side can muster, the hand-wringing about dogwhistles and complaints about the president's claims are even more overblown and irrelevant than they seemed.

ineedasername 6y ago
For the first time in our history the transfer of power has turned violent. One of the most important buildings in the country was violently invaded by a mob of rioters, resulting in 1 death so far. The fact that you or someone else thought it could be worse doesn't stop this being one of the worst assaults on our system of democracy in our history.
- sneak 6y ago
  I don't think this has anything to do with the transfer of power. The power is being transferred, this protest has no bearing on that.
  - ineedasername 6y ago
    It was a riot against the exact process of the transfer of power, rioting under unproven & consistently debunked accusations literally as Congress was officiating the transfer of power. And it actually disrupted that process. The fact that the transfer of power will occur doesn't mean there wasn't violence involved along the way.

ntsplnkv2 6y ago

Anyone with a brain knew this was coming. Honestly it's shocking how many on HN try to defend it. This isn't a republican or democrat issue anymore after what Pence and McConnell said today. The man is a tyrant, and we should all be thankful it is not far, far worse than this.

willis936 6y ago
My nuclear family has been panicking about this day for months. I’ve assured them a coup is infeasible because Trump is incompetent. I have tried to get them to appreciate CGPGrey’s Rules for Rulers. Trump is too short sighted to realize that he needs to keep the keys to power happy. The military leaders will be happy to see him go.
hairofadog 6y ago
I agree with you; it’s disheartening to see how many people here are suggesting that “both sides” are more or less the same and that the real problem is the left and “MSM”. I expected more from this community.
sharatvir 6y ago
> Honestly it's shocking how many on HN try to defend it. Noticing a tendency among many in the tech community to take apolitical & "centrist" positions on many of these issues, which usually ends up with the blaming of "both sides". Being in the center when one side is so intent on going to the extreme right is not a virtue.
- krapp 6y ago
  Most of them aren't actually centrists, as their centrist positions always impugn the left and forgive the right. They never play the "both sides are evil" card when talking about cancel culture or Benghazi or Obama drone-strikes or BLM, both sides are only evil when Trump, Republicans or Conservatives are criticized (implying that any criticism of the right is simply hypocrisy or left-wing tribalism, and therefore invalid.)
gnulinux 6y ago