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“The Police” is an over generalization. We shouldn’t ask the police to both intervene while also calling all of them fascists.

bilbo0s 6y ago
What we probably shouldn't have done was to hire the people we hired to be police in the first place. That was the mistake from which all others followed. If the people you hire to police your laws will only police the laws they want to police, or even worse, will only police the laws against a certain demographic of people, then you don't have a police force. And acting like these people are police inevitably leads to scenes like the one we see today.
eyelidlessness 6y ago
We can’t identify a problem and demand a solution?
- hertzrat 6y ago
  There are police officers who mean well and also officers who abuse their power; and police forces in different places have different institutional cultures and leadership, some of which are odious and some of which are good. "The Police" is a very broad term
  - eyelidlessness 6y ago
    Look, it’s not like the bad apples theory hasn’t been debated to death. If you’re uncomfortable with the “good apples” being tarnished by the “bad apples”, you’ll have a better impact by working to change the pervasive culture of: - those “bad apples” being almost universally exempt from meaningful accountability proportional to their power and actions - those “good apples” being unwilling to lead those accountability efforts, or even to just distance themselves from the “bad apples” to set a better example - the clear and consistent bias overall in favor of these far right/fascist actors, including numerous times being caught on camera actively coordinating and ample video evidence of such bias in plain view If “the police” don’t want to be viewed as a homogeneous pro-fascist force, they need to not act like one.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  You contradict yourself when you identify a problem then ask that problem to kindly solve itself.
watwut 6y ago
This amounts to argument that if cops feelings are hurt, it is ok for them to let things just happen. I mean, we expect more from snowflake sjws.
philosopher1234 6y ago
Yes we should, because both are apt.

bilbo0s 6y ago

What we probably shouldn't have done was to hire the people we hired to be police in the first place. That was the mistake from which all others followed. If the people you hire to police your laws will only police the laws they want to police, or even worse, will only police the laws against a certain demographic of people, then you don't have a police force. And acting like these people are police inevitably leads to scenes like the one we see today.

eyelidlessness 6y ago

We can’t identify a problem and demand a solution?

hertzrat 6y ago
There are police officers who mean well and also officers who abuse their power; and police forces in different places have different institutional cultures and leadership, some of which are odious and some of which are good. "The Police" is a very broad term
- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  Look, it’s not like the bad apples theory hasn’t been debated to death. If you’re uncomfortable with the “good apples” being tarnished by the “bad apples”, you’ll have a better impact by working to change the pervasive culture of: - those “bad apples” being almost universally exempt from meaningful accountability proportional to their power and actions - those “good apples” being unwilling to lead those accountability efforts, or even to just distance themselves from the “bad apples” to set a better example - the clear and consistent bias overall in favor of these far right/fascist actors, including numerous times being caught on camera actively coordinating and ample video evidence of such bias in plain view If “the police” don’t want to be viewed as a homogeneous pro-fascist force, they need to not act like one.
chordalkeyboard 6y ago
You contradict yourself when you identify a problem then ask that problem to kindly solve itself.

watwut 6y ago

This amounts to argument that if cops feelings are hurt, it is ok for them to let things just happen. I mean, we expect more from snowflake sjws.

philosopher1234 6y ago

Yes we should, because both are apt.