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> just like AIDE is an option on Android. It's an option but it's pretty terrible. It's basically the state of the art on Android and it gets worse from there

> just like AIDE is an option on Android. It's an option but it's pretty terrible. It's basically the state of the art on Android and it gets worse from there. > A command line doesn't need to be yet another bash clone. No, but if your platform already runs Linux then it's a pretty good choice. Plus, at this point, it has the largest body of code/scripting available. I don't want a command line that doesn't run anything just like I don't want an OS that doesn't run anything. > Turbo Pascal for Android is called Kotlin. Kotlin runs on Android?

pjmlp 6y ago
Android doesn't run Linux, it is an implementation detail, Google could replace it by BSD on Android 12 and no well behaved application would notice, given that syscalls aren't part of the public APIs. Kotlin is the main official language since 2 years now, it shows how much you know Android.
- wvenable 6y ago
  > Android doesn't run Linux It literally does. It doesn't run GNU/Linux. And the native non-Java API is usable by Android applications so it's not just an implementation detail. In fact, I suspect most games are developed this way. This shows how much you know about Android. Google even calls this the Native Development Kit. > Kotlin is the main official language since 2 years now Kotlin doesn't run on Android. You need a "real" computer to run Kotlin. It's not an Android native development tool. Why you bothered to bring it up when it's outside the scope of this conversation, I don't know.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Apparently it does run https://developer.android.com/kotlin https://developer.android.com/kotlin So my phone is a real computer. Here find out the Linux APIs on the NDK. https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis ISO C and C++ standard libraries OpenGL, Vulkan, OpenSL, OpenMax, Khronos standards Android specific native APIs. Zero Linux specific APIs. Any OS can provide them, and most of them are already on Fuchsia.

pjmlp 6y ago

Android doesn't run Linux, it is an implementation detail, Google could replace it by BSD on Android 12 and no well behaved application would notice, given that syscalls aren't part of the public APIs. Kotlin is the main official language since 2 years now, it shows how much you know Android.

wvenable 6y ago
> Android doesn't run Linux It literally does. It doesn't run GNU/Linux. And the native non-Java API is usable by Android applications so it's not just an implementation detail. In fact, I suspect most games are developed this way. This shows how much you know about Android. Google even calls this the Native Development Kit. > Kotlin is the main official language since 2 years now Kotlin doesn't run on Android. You need a "real" computer to run Kotlin. It's not an Android native development tool. Why you bothered to bring it up when it's outside the scope of this conversation, I don't know.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Apparently it does run https://developer.android.com/kotlin https://developer.android.com/kotlin So my phone is a real computer. Here find out the Linux APIs on the NDK. https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis ISO C and C++ standard libraries OpenGL, Vulkan, OpenSL, OpenMax, Khronos standards Android specific native APIs. Zero Linux specific APIs. Any OS can provide them, and most of them are already on Fuchsia.