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I would suggest looking at Altemeyer's work; the authoritative streak runs on both sides. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Altemeyer https://en.wikipedia.org/

I would suggest looking at Altemeyer's work; the authoritative streak runs on both sides. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Altemeyer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Altemeyer

krapp 6y ago
But only one side is actually trying to negate the legitimate result of a Presidential election at the moment, and it isn't the Democrats or "the Left."
- vorpalhex 6y ago
  The beginning of 2016 was quite different though. Just because Democrats are currently the heroes doesn't buy them pardon for past sins - or protect them from future ones.
  - krapp 6y ago
    The "sins" of the Democrats in 2016 were overblown by the Trump camp. They exposed the ugly sausage-making processes of the DNC and called it corruption and treason, when both political parties operate the same way, and neither party committee is a direct democracy.
    - nostromo 6y ago
      People called on the electoral college to overturn the vote of the people in 2016 —- and several did. I’m not sure how much more brazen you can be about trying to overturn an election’s results. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election#Electoral_College_lobbying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...
      - augustt 6y ago
        How much more brazen can you be? Turn on the goddamn news today. Show me a list of democratic congressmen who voted against certification in 2016. Show me when Obama pressured his VP to toss electors. Show me a barrage of completely bullshit lawsuits. Show a phone call from the incumbent asking to miraculously find votes. This "both sides" bullshit needs to stop.
        vorpalhex 6y ago
        I can't do 2016 but I can do 2005 - https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/ https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/
        krapp 6y ago
        I can do thousands of Trump supporters literally storming the capital by force at this moment, encouraged by a sitting President who has convinced them the election was stolen from him[0]. [0]https://news.google.com/search?q=trump+supporters+storm+capitol&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en https://news.google.com/search?q=trump+supporters+storm+capi...
        augustt 6y ago
        You'll have no luck with this crowd. Surprising amount of literal traitors out here.
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        augustt 6y ago
        Hmm I wonder if Kerry had conceded by then...
    - jimbob45 6y ago
      You’re not wrong. The GOP went so hard on Benghazi that they didn’t have the bandwidth to go after actual scandals like Fast & Furious, pulling back from Syria, and Hillary hiding her health issues. IMHO, Benghazi was a positive event in terms of Democratic strategy.
      - krapp 6y ago
        I'll give you everything else but "Hillary hiding her health issues" was a meme as far as I know, basically the forerunner to "Biden has severe dementia"
        jimbob45 6y ago
        She gave a very canned response to her fainting while on video. She had the opportunity to look honest and forthcoming after Trump's obviously forged doctor's note and she wasted the opportunity.
- sonotmyname 6y ago
  No, but as the past 4 years have proven, if the election results were reversed the Left would absolutely be doing so.
  - citrablue 6y ago
    This does not hold water. Did the left occupy the Capitol building in 2016 or 2000, when they won the popular votes but lost the presidency?

I would suggest looking at Altemeyer's work; the authoritative streak runs on both sides. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Altemeyer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Altemeyer

krapp 6y ago

But only one side is actually trying to negate the legitimate result of a Presidential election at the moment, and it isn't the Democrats or "the Left."

vorpalhex 6y ago
The beginning of 2016 was quite different though. Just because Democrats are currently the heroes doesn't buy them pardon for past sins - or protect them from future ones.
- krapp 6y ago
  The "sins" of the Democrats in 2016 were overblown by the Trump camp. They exposed the ugly sausage-making processes of the DNC and called it corruption and treason, when both political parties operate the same way, and neither party committee is a direct democracy.
  - nostromo 6y ago
    People called on the electoral college to overturn the vote of the people in 2016 —- and several did. I’m not sure how much more brazen you can be about trying to overturn an election’s results. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election#Electoral_College_lobbying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...
    - augustt 6y ago
      How much more brazen can you be? Turn on the goddamn news today. Show me a list of democratic congressmen who voted against certification in 2016. Show me when Obama pressured his VP to toss electors. Show me a barrage of completely bullshit lawsuits. Show a phone call from the incumbent asking to miraculously find votes. This "both sides" bullshit needs to stop.
      - vorpalhex 6y ago
        I can't do 2016 but I can do 2005 - https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/ https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/
        krapp 6y ago
        I can do thousands of Trump supporters literally storming the capital by force at this moment, encouraged by a sitting President who has convinced them the election was stolen from him[0]. [0]https://news.google.com/search?q=trump+supporters+storm+capitol&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en https://news.google.com/search?q=trump+supporters+storm+capi...
        augustt 6y ago
        You'll have no luck with this crowd. Surprising amount of literal traitors out here.
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        augustt 6y ago
        Hmm I wonder if Kerry had conceded by then...
  - jimbob45 6y ago
    You’re not wrong. The GOP went so hard on Benghazi that they didn’t have the bandwidth to go after actual scandals like Fast & Furious, pulling back from Syria, and Hillary hiding her health issues. IMHO, Benghazi was a positive event in terms of Democratic strategy.
    - krapp 6y ago
      I'll give you everything else but "Hillary hiding her health issues" was a meme as far as I know, basically the forerunner to "Biden has severe dementia"
      - jimbob45 6y ago
        She gave a very canned response to her fainting while on video. She had the opportunity to look honest and forthcoming after Trump's obviously forged doctor's note and she wasted the opportunity.
sonotmyname 6y ago
No, but as the past 4 years have proven, if the election results were reversed the Left would absolutely be doing so.
- citrablue 6y ago
  This does not hold water. Did the left occupy the Capitol building in 2016 or 2000, when they won the popular votes but lost the presidency?