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> without ventilation we would have around 3 times more death In that subgroup. A large part (I'd say a majority) of the people who died never used a ventilato
by kgwgk 6y ago
> without ventilation we would have around 3 times more death
In that subgroup. A large part (I'd say a majority) of the people who died never used a ventilator.
- littlestymaar 6y ago> In that subgroup True. But hold on: in my country (France), as of yesterday, 45 635 people have died in hospital (having access to a ventilator with few exceptions) and 19 780 outside (no ventilator). So in my country, the majority of covid19 victims had access to a ventilator. And given that a large part of the deaths took place in western countries, that subgroup is big.
- kgwgk 6y agoFew exceptions? « Pourquoi une grande majorité des morts du Covid-19 à l'hôpital ne sont jamais passés par la réanimation ? » https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/2020/12/11/pourquoi-une-grande-majorite-des-morts-du-covid-19-a-l-hopital-ne-sont-jamais-passes-par-la-reanimat_1805159 https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/2020/12/11/pourquoi-une-... Edit: https://42info.fr/les-morts-a-lhopital-qui-ne-sont-pas-passes-par-la-reanimation/ https://42info.fr/les-morts-a-lhopital-qui-ne-sont-pas-passe...
- littlestymaar 6y agoOh, that sounds really interesting. Thanks. That was not what I understood from the aforementioned study and obviously that changes the figures a lot (by a factor 4). Too bad it's behind a paywall :/ Taking that in account, out of the 45k who died in hospital, 12k died after being admitted in ICU. In the meantime, ICU saved 32k people (73%)[1], which is indeed far lower than my previous estimation, I stand corrected. [1]: https://drees.solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/dd67.pdf https://drees.solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/dd67.pdf (page 17) which is the document quoted in your article.