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Let's not devalue any one person's job or contribution. However, inequality of pay is real and it's a massive disparity that must be addressed. Another way of

Let's not devalue any one person's job or contribution. However, inequality of pay is real and it's a massive disparity that must be addressed. Another way of looking at it: the persons who clean the hospital are equally as valuable to the organisation as the doctors and nurses are. Without medical care, patients suffer and die. With an unclean hospital, patients suffer and die. Everyone should be paid roughly the same, with a reasonable stipend for extra time spent training. No good reason that a doctor should be on hundreds of thousands in salary per year, and a cleaner subsists on a minimal wage. Same goes for software engineers.

Chris2048 6y ago
> With an unclean hospital, patients suffer and die. I'm not a fan of this logic. Should water cost more b/c without it you'd die? Value is roughly determined by supply/demand, risk/reward. Doctors/nurses are more valuable than cleaners because they are harder to train, give function to the hospital in the first place (who cares to clean a hospital without any staff that no-one goes to), and you can consult with a doctor just as well in a dirty room.
JoeAltmaier 6y ago
Everybody is critical, of course. That's why they're hired. But not everybody is easily replacable. That's why they have different pay. And that is indeed a very good reason a doctor earns more. Doubt that? Then get your cleaner to take out your appendix.
leetcrew 6y ago
> Everyone should be paid roughly the same, with a reasonable stipend for extra time spent training. No good reason that a doctor should be on hundreds of thousands in salary per year, and a cleaner subsists on a minimal wage. no, there's a very simple reason for this. if for some reason there were a shortage of full-time cleaners, a doctor could clean a room in a pinch. a cleaner cannot treat a patient in lieu of a doctor, at least not with the same outcomes.

Chris2048 6y ago

> With an unclean hospital, patients suffer and die. I'm not a fan of this logic. Should water cost more b/c without it you'd die? Value is roughly determined by supply/demand, risk/reward. Doctors/nurses are more valuable than cleaners because they are harder to train, give function to the hospital in the first place (who cares to clean a hospital without any staff that no-one goes to), and you can consult with a doctor just as well in a dirty room.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago

Everybody is critical, of course. That's why they're hired. But not everybody is easily replacable. That's why they have different pay. And that is indeed a very good reason a doctor earns more. Doubt that? Then get your cleaner to take out your appendix.

leetcrew 6y ago

> Everyone should be paid roughly the same, with a reasonable stipend for extra time spent training. No good reason that a doctor should be on hundreds of thousands in salary per year, and a cleaner subsists on a minimal wage. no, there's a very simple reason for this. if for some reason there were a shortage of full-time cleaners, a doctor could clean a room in a pinch. a cleaner cannot treat a patient in lieu of a doctor, at least not with the same outcomes.