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What's so wrong with FastMail?

by rmuratov 6y ago

systemvoltage 6y ago
Some info here: https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-recommendations.html https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec... There was another highly voted post on HN that compared all services (except Migadu) just last month, I can't find it.
Klonoar 6y ago
They're presumably concerned about FastMail being in/from Australia. The thing is, if you're concerned about a state agency, you have bigger issues. If all you're after is "I don't want to give Google my money", FastMail is pretty good - and to boot they're one of the few with a still working push notification certificate for Mac Mail.app users, I believe. Email is a lost cause. Just choose the one that sucks the least, and don't do important things on it.
- cassianoleal 6y ago
  > don't do important things on it. How do you accomplish that? In my experience every single service on the internet relies on email for account creation, password recovery and general identity verification. I'm not saying that's good, only that it's the current state of affairs.
  - bluGill 6y ago
    Right, so don't do important things on the internet. Good advice in general.
  - Klonoar 6y ago
    I'm rolling my eyes at your comment. Come on now, you know what I meant. Email is like getting mail in your postal box. It has no real protections except for people saying "yeah, I won't read your mail". Thus, if something is important enough, don't use it for that. If you really need to do something privately there are better equipped avenues; if you're worried about tracking, it doesn't matter because - any service mailing you will try to track you - if you email with anybody from Google/MSFT/etc, your email is on their servers anyway. It's a lost cause. It has been for some time. Keep a strong password on it and 2FA and such, but otherwise, it's not worth the time to care about.

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What's so wrong with FastMail?

by rmuratov 6y ago

What's so wrong with FastMail?

systemvoltage 6y ago
Some info here: https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-recommendations.html https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec... There was another highly voted post on HN that compared all services (except Migadu) just last month, I can't find it.
Klonoar 6y ago
They're presumably concerned about FastMail being in/from Australia. The thing is, if you're concerned about a state agency, you have bigger issues. If all you're after is "I don't want to give Google my money", FastMail is pretty good - and to boot they're one of the few with a still working push notification certificate for Mac Mail.app users, I believe. Email is a lost cause. Just choose the one that sucks the least, and don't do important things on it.
- cassianoleal 6y ago
  > don't do important things on it. How do you accomplish that? In my experience every single service on the internet relies on email for account creation, password recovery and general identity verification. I'm not saying that's good, only that it's the current state of affairs.
  - bluGill 6y ago
    Right, so don't do important things on the internet. Good advice in general.
  - Klonoar 6y ago
    I'm rolling my eyes at your comment. Come on now, you know what I meant. Email is like getting mail in your postal box. It has no real protections except for people saying "yeah, I won't read your mail". Thus, if something is important enough, don't use it for that. If you really need to do something privately there are better equipped avenues; if you're worried about tracking, it doesn't matter because - any service mailing you will try to track you - if you email with anybody from Google/MSFT/etc, your email is on their servers anyway. It's a lost cause. It has been for some time. Keep a strong password on it and 2FA and such, but otherwise, it's not worth the time to care about.