> Surely that's the whole point of a trap? I mean, this is exactly the bad faith argument I was talking about right here. If you want to view this as smoke and

> Surely that's the whole point of a trap? I mean, this is exactly the bad faith argument I was talking about right here. If you want to view this as smoke and mirrors until they "trap" you by all means go ahead, but it does shut this conversation right down.