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Most of the comments here are looking at this the wrong way The big problem here is the spectrum, any spectrum, is being SOLD.. Spectrum use should come at a

by syshum 6y ago

Most of the comments here are looking at this the wrong way The big problem here is the spectrum, any spectrum, is being SOLD.. Spectrum use should come at a cost based on % of revenue or Profit paid back the people and used for common programs. Not a one time free where by then the private company owns it for all time

superkuh 6y ago
Don't worry. Even when it's sold it's never really sold. If someone with more money comes along they get your spectrum. Just look at the incumbent satellite uplink operators who had half of C band taken away from them and resold (to 5G telcos). As for spectrum usage, I can only talk about my region, but I have been monitoring all of 70-1000 MHz at ~10 second intervals and storing the data since 2014. For periods of that I monitor 700-2700 MHz as well. The cell operators are not letting their bands sit idle as far as I can tell. It's nothing like what the top level comment thread implies re: ISM vs. Cell bands. If anything it's the reverse. But that doesn't mean they should get this 6-7 GHz of new ISM spectrum the FCC returned the original owners: the people. They really, really shouldn't. And they shouldn't be allowed to operated unlicensed LTE in the ISM bands either.
- ece 6y ago
  The FCC also designated this 6Ghz spectrum for indoor use only below a certain transmission limit, unlike the 5GHz channels which you have to stop using if there's other traffic. It's a good case of dual-use of spectrum, though more spectrum should be made public either way.
- PoachedSausage 6y ago
  Your spectrum monitoring sounds interesting. Do you have any details/write up?
  - superkuh 6y ago
    http://superkuh.com/radio/ http://superkuh.com/radio/ . In that directory you'll find most of the recorded radio history as well as the bash script and depends to do it yourself (http://superkuh.com/radio/deps/ http://superkuh.com/radio/deps/). The top of the bash script has a readme in the comments. For 70-1000 MHz it's just a homemade discone antenna hooked to an rtlsdr dongle running rtl_power. I have written a little bash script that automates calling heatmap.py to render the 30k pixel wide image, imgcnv to slice it into image tiles, and generate an PanoJS HTML page to display the tiles.

by syshum 6y ago

superkuh 6y ago

Don't worry. Even when it's sold it's never really sold. If someone with more money comes along they get your spectrum. Just look at the incumbent satellite uplink operators who had half of C band taken away from them and resold (to 5G telcos). As for spectrum usage, I can only talk about my region, but I have been monitoring all of 70-1000 MHz at ~10 second intervals and storing the data since 2014. For periods of that I monitor 700-2700 MHz as well. The cell operators are not letting their bands sit idle as far as I can tell. It's nothing like what the top level comment thread implies re: ISM vs. Cell bands. If anything it's the reverse. But that doesn't mean they should get this 6-7 GHz of new ISM spectrum the FCC returned the original owners: the people. They really, really shouldn't. And they shouldn't be allowed to operated unlicensed LTE in the ISM bands either.

ece 6y ago
The FCC also designated this 6Ghz spectrum for indoor use only below a certain transmission limit, unlike the 5GHz channels which you have to stop using if there's other traffic. It's a good case of dual-use of spectrum, though more spectrum should be made public either way.
PoachedSausage 6y ago
Your spectrum monitoring sounds interesting. Do you have any details/write up?
- superkuh 6y ago
  http://superkuh.com/radio/ http://superkuh.com/radio/ . In that directory you'll find most of the recorded radio history as well as the bash script and depends to do it yourself (http://superkuh.com/radio/deps/ http://superkuh.com/radio/deps/). The top of the bash script has a readme in the comments. For 70-1000 MHz it's just a homemade discone antenna hooked to an rtlsdr dongle running rtl_power. I have written a little bash script that automates calling heatmap.py to render the 30k pixel wide image, imgcnv to slice it into image tiles, and generate an PanoJS HTML page to display the tiles.