What is lovely about this debate is that people who don't like getting up early think that DST gives them a magic extra hour of daylight, so they push hard for

What is lovely about this debate is that people who don't like getting up early think that DST gives them a magic extra hour of daylight, so they push hard for permanent DST. At the same time, they think that people advocating 8-4 working hours or earlier school hours are draconian ascetics. Yet what they get in both cases is exactly equivalent, other than which numeral you use when referring to the time.