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These ideas are cute but they lack interest from major players. In Europe it seems the big players are betting big on hydrogen. The EU is looking to convert all

These ideas are cute but they lack interest from major players. In Europe it seems the big players are betting big on hydrogen. The EU is looking to convert all gas pipelines to be hydrogen proof and for new pipelines to also be hydrogen proof. I know Japan is also very bullish on hydrogen infrastructure. With regards to energy storage, it seems to me the solutions that are most likely to be widely adopted are: batteries, pumped hydro, and hydrogen and the many synthetic hydrocarbons that can be obtained from it. Besides that, improvements to the energy grid can be made to eliminate the need to store as much energy in the first place.

blue_box 6y ago
Could you share your resources, please?
- orange_tee 6y ago
  I got it through word of mouth from people involved in projects, but I did a Google search for you and came up with many public trusted sources: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/hydrogen_europe_-_vision_on_the_role_of_hydrogen_and_gas_infrastructure.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/hydrogen_europe_-... https://hydrogeneurope.eu/hydrogen-storage https://hydrogeneurope.eu/hydrogen-storage https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/gas-grid-operators-unveil-plan-for-european-hydrogen-infrastructure-backbone/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/gas-grid-operat... Were we stand in 2021 is that policy is already on the books and funds being distributed for these projects. So hydrogen ready pipelines are definitely getting built. Whether they will prove useful remains to be seen.
  - Hypx 6y ago
    This being explored in the US too: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2019/03/f60/fcto-satyapal-verdexchange-jan19.pdf https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2019/03/f60/fcto-sat... I suspect that utility companies in the US are only a few steps behind European utility companies. This should be a global thing before long.

blue_box 6y ago

Could you share your resources, please?

orange_tee 6y ago
I got it through word of mouth from people involved in projects, but I did a Google search for you and came up with many public trusted sources: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/hydrogen_europe_-_vision_on_the_role_of_hydrogen_and_gas_infrastructure.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/hydrogen_europe_-... https://hydrogeneurope.eu/hydrogen-storage https://hydrogeneurope.eu/hydrogen-storage https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/gas-grid-operators-unveil-plan-for-european-hydrogen-infrastructure-backbone/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/gas-grid-operat... Were we stand in 2021 is that policy is already on the books and funds being distributed for these projects. So hydrogen ready pipelines are definitely getting built. Whether they will prove useful remains to be seen.
- Hypx 6y ago
  This being explored in the US too: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2019/03/f60/fcto-satyapal-verdexchange-jan19.pdf https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2019/03/f60/fcto-sat... I suspect that utility companies in the US are only a few steps behind European utility companies. This should be a global thing before long.