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Apart from the fact they've actively stated (repeatedly, during their main presentations) that running arbitrary code on a mac will not be changing. For a comp

Apart from the fact they've actively stated (repeatedly, during their main presentations) that running arbitrary code on a mac will not be changing. For a company that seems sometimes to go out of its way to not give any information on anything it doesn't make sense to clearly and concisely make that statement.

andrekandre 6y ago
> running arbitrary code on a mac will not be changing. i wonder how much of this is thanks to peoples "gnashing of teeth" about mac getting an iphone lockdown in the end its speculation, but id wager a guess apple wouldnt have a big problem locking down macos if people didnt make a big deal out of it
- bun_at_work 6y ago
  It's almost certainly not due to "gnashing of teeth." They've always marketed the MacBook line as a general computing device for power users. The idea that they would make it impossible for developers to use their primary computing product is ridiculous. They know how many of these things they sell to students, developers, etc. Just a note - it's often very easy to measure the validity of your ideas by considering the economics of the ideas. Apple effectively neutering development on their premier general purpose computer would obviously reduce the amount they sold. The same isn't true for the iPhone, which effectively no one develops on.
  - sjwright 6y ago
    It's also very clear that Apple sees the iPad Pro—not the Mac—as their vision for locked-down general purpose computing. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a notebook iPad with a fixed keyboard, or a desktop iPad in the shape of a small iMac. These seem unlikely and perhaps absurd... but not nearly as absurd as locking down the platform Apple expects developers to use.
Nullabillity 6y ago
While at the same time continuously tightening the noose on Gatekeeper. I wonder why people wouldn't take their word for it...
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  This is always trotted out. There’s not a single piece of access I’ve lost. It’s a couple of dialog boxes.

andrekandre 6y ago

> running arbitrary code on a mac will not be changing. i wonder how much of this is thanks to peoples "gnashing of teeth" about mac getting an iphone lockdown in the end its speculation, but id wager a guess apple wouldnt have a big problem locking down macos if people didnt make a big deal out of it

bun_at_work 6y ago
It's almost certainly not due to "gnashing of teeth." They've always marketed the MacBook line as a general computing device for power users. The idea that they would make it impossible for developers to use their primary computing product is ridiculous. They know how many of these things they sell to students, developers, etc. Just a note - it's often very easy to measure the validity of your ideas by considering the economics of the ideas. Apple effectively neutering development on their premier general purpose computer would obviously reduce the amount they sold. The same isn't true for the iPhone, which effectively no one develops on.
- sjwright 6y ago
  It's also very clear that Apple sees the iPad Pro—not the Mac—as their vision for locked-down general purpose computing. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a notebook iPad with a fixed keyboard, or a desktop iPad in the shape of a small iMac. These seem unlikely and perhaps absurd... but not nearly as absurd as locking down the platform Apple expects developers to use.

Nullabillity 6y ago

While at the same time continuously tightening the noose on Gatekeeper. I wonder why people wouldn't take their word for it...

breakfastduck 6y ago
This is always trotted out. There’s not a single piece of access I’ve lost. It’s a couple of dialog boxes.