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> Please, as a U.S. voter, I urge you to consider your support for stopping the sanctions. How can a US voter actually affect change? What options are availabl

> Please, as a U.S. voter, I urge you to consider your support for stopping the sanctions. How can a US voter actually affect change? What options are available for us to vote for?

q3k 6y ago
Maybe give your government a taste of their own medicine: go to the streets and overthrow your evil, corrupt politicians.
- spoonjim 6y ago
  Overthrow them and replace them with who? Who should be the leaders of the United States? I am open to ideas for who to vote for, and I think a lot of people are. That's why someone as obviously ill-suited for the job as Trump did win -- people are so desperate for something different but don't really know what they're looking for.
  - q3k 6y ago
    > replace them with who Someone who aligns with your views - like yourself.
    - colejohnson66 6y ago
      There's 300 million plus people in the United States. Sure, we could overthrow the government, but you can't just go "my way or the highway" with policies; you'll never get support doing that. As spoonjim said, Trump wasn't elected for no reason; He was elected because 62 million plus people voted for him. And with this past election, that number went up to 74 million. And the opposition (Biden/Harris) got 81 million. For comparison, George Washington's support was almost unanimous. Sure, it's not exactly the same, but Washington had the support he did because everyone believed in a common "enemy", the British Empire. Today, depending on who you ask, the enemy is either "the Demonrats" or "the Trumpanzees".[a] Not to mention that the United States itself wasn't formed overnight; it was the product of many compromises. There's even a whole Broadway play about it: Hamilton[b]. [a]: Yes, these are actual "names" I've read online. [b]: Sure, it's exaggerated, but it's pretty accurate
      - Daho0n 6y ago
        >the enemy is either "the Demonrats" or "the Trumpanzees". You forgot Muslims, Mexicans, poor people and the non-white people of the US. They are just as much an enemy as the opposing political party (and the Russians and the Chinese....)
    - spoonjim 6y ago
      I definitely shouldn't be a leader of the United States, trust me on that. So, given that, to whom should I give my vote and other power I may hold?
- wittyreference 6y ago
  Can't wait to find some non-evil, non-corrupt politicians. Is there a Yelp for finding those?
  - q3k 6y ago
    Why not yourself?
- deleted 6y ago
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darig 6y ago
The AR-15 seems popular.
skybrian 6y ago
I'm not sure how much is by law and how much is by executive order, but I believe that when Biden gets in, he could make some changes unilaterally. So, essentially this would be about advocating for change by the Biden administration. It wouldn't be by voting (since the election is already done), but writing to your representative could help. Maybe there are advocacy groups that could use support? Advocating for changes is more likely to be effective with an administration that isn't fundamentally opposed to them.
- EarthIsHome 6y ago
  > but I believe that when Biden gets in, he could make some changes unilaterally. What makes you think he will do any of that besides a belief?
  - skybrian 6y ago
    I wasn't saying he will do it. I was saying he could. It seems the the US law was originally the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act [1] and there have been various laws extending it. Apparently they allow the President to waive sanctions on a case-by-case bases. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_Libya_Sanctions_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_Libya_Sanctions_Act
jbay808 6y ago
You can write a letter to your representative!
- EarthIsHome 6y ago
  These suggestions are age-old tactics [0] used to placate the population and prevent actual, material change. [0]: https://twitter.com/StuffFromSam/status/1344313566254477313?s=20 https://twitter.com/StuffFromSam/status/1344313566254477313?...
tikwidd 6y ago
This should be higher up. Here's my cynical take: the most effective way to lift the sanctions would be lobbying from US corporations. Lifting sanctions is probably profitable for every US business with a market in Iran, so if you work at a US corporation, lobby your boss!

> Please, as a U.S. voter, I urge you to consider your support for stopping the sanctions. How can a US voter actually affect change? What options are available for us to vote for?

q3k 6y ago

Maybe give your government a taste of their own medicine: go to the streets and overthrow your evil, corrupt politicians.

spoonjim 6y ago
Overthrow them and replace them with who? Who should be the leaders of the United States? I am open to ideas for who to vote for, and I think a lot of people are. That's why someone as obviously ill-suited for the job as Trump did win -- people are so desperate for something different but don't really know what they're looking for.
- q3k 6y ago
  > replace them with who Someone who aligns with your views - like yourself.
  - colejohnson66 6y ago
    There's 300 million plus people in the United States. Sure, we could overthrow the government, but you can't just go "my way or the highway" with policies; you'll never get support doing that. As spoonjim said, Trump wasn't elected for no reason; He was elected because 62 million plus people voted for him. And with this past election, that number went up to 74 million. And the opposition (Biden/Harris) got 81 million. For comparison, George Washington's support was almost unanimous. Sure, it's not exactly the same, but Washington had the support he did because everyone believed in a common "enemy", the British Empire. Today, depending on who you ask, the enemy is either "the Demonrats" or "the Trumpanzees".[a] Not to mention that the United States itself wasn't formed overnight; it was the product of many compromises. There's even a whole Broadway play about it: Hamilton[b]. [a]: Yes, these are actual "names" I've read online. [b]: Sure, it's exaggerated, but it's pretty accurate
    - Daho0n 6y ago
      >the enemy is either "the Demonrats" or "the Trumpanzees". You forgot Muslims, Mexicans, poor people and the non-white people of the US. They are just as much an enemy as the opposing political party (and the Russians and the Chinese....)
  - spoonjim 6y ago
    I definitely shouldn't be a leader of the United States, trust me on that. So, given that, to whom should I give my vote and other power I may hold?
wittyreference 6y ago
Can't wait to find some non-evil, non-corrupt politicians. Is there a Yelp for finding those?
- q3k 6y ago
  Why not yourself?
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darig 6y ago

The AR-15 seems popular.

skybrian 6y ago

I'm not sure how much is by law and how much is by executive order, but I believe that when Biden gets in, he could make some changes unilaterally. So, essentially this would be about advocating for change by the Biden administration. It wouldn't be by voting (since the election is already done), but writing to your representative could help. Maybe there are advocacy groups that could use support? Advocating for changes is more likely to be effective with an administration that isn't fundamentally opposed to them.

EarthIsHome 6y ago
> but I believe that when Biden gets in, he could make some changes unilaterally. What makes you think he will do any of that besides a belief?
- skybrian 6y ago
  I wasn't saying he will do it. I was saying he could. It seems the the US law was originally the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act [1] and there have been various laws extending it. Apparently they allow the President to waive sanctions on a case-by-case bases. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_Libya_Sanctions_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_Libya_Sanctions_Act

jbay808 6y ago

You can write a letter to your representative!

EarthIsHome 6y ago
These suggestions are age-old tactics [0] used to placate the population and prevent actual, material change. [0]: https://twitter.com/StuffFromSam/status/1344313566254477313?s=20 https://twitter.com/StuffFromSam/status/1344313566254477313?...

tikwidd 6y ago

This should be higher up. Here's my cynical take: the most effective way to lift the sanctions would be lobbying from US corporations. Lifting sanctions is probably profitable for every US business with a market in Iran, so if you work at a US corporation, lobby your boss!