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The US sanctions on Iran has such a massive impact on Iranians that most of us don't realise. All US companies have to comply and majority of the tech companie

The US sanctions on Iran has such a massive impact on Iranians that most of us don't realise. All US companies have to comply and majority of the tech companies are unfortunately in the US. I know you can use a VPN and configure it on a router level to make sure that you are always connected via a VPN but just the fact that 1 slip-up can result in account level blocks (which google is notoriously good at and can essentially shut down your business) means no company would want to work with someone working from Iran. Coming from a 3rd world country, I know the problems of internet censorship which Iranians also face but being too toxic to touch for everyone outside Iran because the US leadership thinks so is just infuriating and heart breaking. Imagine being a programmer in Iran. Not only do you have less resources to learn and grow, you have a massive handicap to find good work as most work is outside of the country. Only bet is to leave the country but even there you have a very low probability as you basically can't have a trial period for your job as most companies don't want to risk having their accounts blocked. Most of us here know how degrading and infuriating the tech recruiting processes can be and now add to it the horrors of working from Iran. Wars are not supposed to have civilian casualties but this one has a generation of civilians being starved of information and experience critical for them to grow.

factorialboy 6y ago
(Controversial comment) I am not condoning the actions of the United States government, but arguably the Iranian Islamic theocratic regime has unleashed more horrors on the Iranian people in the last 50 years than any other foreign government.
- edumucelli 6y ago
  Imagine the horror US has unleashed "invading" almost every country in the world (except 3) with formal or hidden missions.
  - bogomipz 6y ago
    You realize that there are between 194 and 197 countries in the world depending on who is doing the recognizing[1]. Could you please provide a citation for the 191+ countries you say the US has invaded? [1] https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-many-countries-are-in-the-world.html https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-many-countries-are-i...
    - edumucelli 6y ago
      https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/ https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3...
      - bogomipz 6y ago
        From your link: >"According to Kelly and Laycock’s book, the United States has invaded or fought in 84 of the 193 countries recognized by the United Nations and has been militarily involved with 191 of 193 – a staggering 98 percent." "Invaded or fought in" - that's a pretty big "or" there no? The theater of operations for the US Military in World War II was easily 84 countries in itself [1]. Also 84 countries is not all but 3 is it? Nor would it be considered "most" as you stated. Further that's not really a citation that supports your assertion. It's a post with a single reference to a book entitled "America Invades: How We've Invaded or been Militarily Involved with almost Every Country on Earth." The phrase "or been Militarily Involved with" is casting a pretty wide net no? That's quite a nebulous clause. If you sell someone a tank you are "militarily involved" with them. By that dubious measure much of the globe is "militarily involved" with each other. Have you read this book? What's seems to be notable about this book is the absence of any footnotes or bibliographic information. This is quite odd for a history book. I think this book could be accurately described as "entertainment reading" as it seems to lack any academic rigor. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_theaters_of_operations_in_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_theaters_of_oper...
  - hirako2000 6y ago
    You replied to a troll trap. It doesn't matter what the Iranian gov does or did, nor what the US gov did all these years. The argument is that the US sanctions are wrong. It's totally against what America and the West at large stands for. Those sanctions, as always punish innocent citizens the most. The strategy of course is to make those citizens revolt. But it ain't even working. See with Iraq and Libya, they litterally ended up bombing these countries and ensured the death penatly to those leaders, and now see how worse it has become over there (interestingly the news outlet don't report much of the situation now). I have been clearly and firmly reminded by my employer about sanctions on Iran and to not engage in any business with Iranian as clients. The US government, like said in another comment is using its country's private economical powers for the service of its (absurd) geopolitics, not far from what China has been doing, but with far more hypocrisy and somehow less success.
- vernie 6y ago
  Hmm... I wonder if the United States government had anything to do with that regime coming to power...
- publicola1990 6y ago
  US sanctions are just adding to the troubles of the Iranian people, I should say.
- camdenlock 6y ago
  Imagine having to preface such a benign statement of fact with a disclaimer like that. What kind of bizarre culture have we created?
mcguire 6y ago
Another controversial comment: This is the other side of the Enlightenment ideal that the legitimacy of a government can only come from the support of its people. When you declare another people to be, literally, Satan, there may be resulting consequences.
will4274 6y ago
Imagine being a programmer in Israel and hearing that the leader of a neighboring country wants to kill you and everybody you know. We're not unaware of the impact of sanctions. Fundamentally, starving a generation of Iranians of information and experience is worth it if leads to civil unrest and regime change, therefore preventing Iran's current leaders from committing the genocide they've said they want to commit so many times.
- rabite 6y ago
  Imagine being almost any other religion in the Middle East and learning that Israelis on a day to day basis are lobbying to carve your countries apart by imperialist wars via their American proxies, bulldozing the homes of your coethnics in Palestine, raping their children, forcibly hijacking their TVs and exposing their kids to pornographic broadcasts, organizing a famine in Syria by their Kurdish proxies, and occupying their homelands. It was only in 2006 that Shiites and the SSNP finally kicked them out of South Lebanon, where they regularly committed war atrocities. Add to this the historical genocides that the nation of Israel completed and rejoice in within their scriptures -- the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Jebusites, the Canaanites (the assault on which happened the day after the Israelites convinced them to get circumcized, then went door to door killing them while their dicks hurt) are all tribes that were completely physically wiped out by the Israelites. This argument should apply to Israel, which is the biggest per capita committer of genocide, land theft, rape, and fraud in the entire world. The entire history of Israel is one of genocide, from the ancient world to today. We need BDS now and a just society would absolutely shun your nation until they respect human rights.
  - will4274 6y ago
    There's a lot in your post that's wrong and this comment won't allow me to correct all of it. Grabbing two: - the Arab nations don't consider themselves kin (or "coethnics" whatever that means) with the Palestinians. When Jordan and Egypt controlled the Palestinian territory, they treated the Palestinians worse then Israeli does today. - the groups that commit the vast majority of rape (per capita or otherwise) in the middle east are not Israeli. In most of the Muslim countries, it's legal to rape your wife. In some of them (such as Iran), men execute their daughters for being raped by their neighbors. One well known group (ISIS) was really into rape - and so Iran gave them money so they could rape more. If what you care about is rape, murder, and genocide, you're against Iran 100x as much as you're against Israel.

factorialboy 6y ago

(Controversial comment) I am not condoning the actions of the United States government, but arguably the Iranian Islamic theocratic regime has unleashed more horrors on the Iranian people in the last 50 years than any other foreign government.

edumucelli 6y ago
Imagine the horror US has unleashed "invading" almost every country in the world (except 3) with formal or hidden missions.
- bogomipz 6y ago
  You realize that there are between 194 and 197 countries in the world depending on who is doing the recognizing[1]. Could you please provide a citation for the 191+ countries you say the US has invaded? [1] https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-many-countries-are-in-the-world.html https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-many-countries-are-i...
  - edumucelli 6y ago
    https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/ https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3...
    - bogomipz 6y ago
      From your link: >"According to Kelly and Laycock’s book, the United States has invaded or fought in 84 of the 193 countries recognized by the United Nations and has been militarily involved with 191 of 193 – a staggering 98 percent." "Invaded or fought in" - that's a pretty big "or" there no? The theater of operations for the US Military in World War II was easily 84 countries in itself [1]. Also 84 countries is not all but 3 is it? Nor would it be considered "most" as you stated. Further that's not really a citation that supports your assertion. It's a post with a single reference to a book entitled "America Invades: How We've Invaded or been Militarily Involved with almost Every Country on Earth." The phrase "or been Militarily Involved with" is casting a pretty wide net no? That's quite a nebulous clause. If you sell someone a tank you are "militarily involved" with them. By that dubious measure much of the globe is "militarily involved" with each other. Have you read this book? What's seems to be notable about this book is the absence of any footnotes or bibliographic information. This is quite odd for a history book. I think this book could be accurately described as "entertainment reading" as it seems to lack any academic rigor. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_theaters_of_operations_in_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_theaters_of_oper...
- hirako2000 6y ago
  You replied to a troll trap. It doesn't matter what the Iranian gov does or did, nor what the US gov did all these years. The argument is that the US sanctions are wrong. It's totally against what America and the West at large stands for. Those sanctions, as always punish innocent citizens the most. The strategy of course is to make those citizens revolt. But it ain't even working. See with Iraq and Libya, they litterally ended up bombing these countries and ensured the death penatly to those leaders, and now see how worse it has become over there (interestingly the news outlet don't report much of the situation now). I have been clearly and firmly reminded by my employer about sanctions on Iran and to not engage in any business with Iranian as clients. The US government, like said in another comment is using its country's private economical powers for the service of its (absurd) geopolitics, not far from what China has been doing, but with far more hypocrisy and somehow less success.
vernie 6y ago
Hmm... I wonder if the United States government had anything to do with that regime coming to power...
publicola1990 6y ago
US sanctions are just adding to the troubles of the Iranian people, I should say.
camdenlock 6y ago
Imagine having to preface such a benign statement of fact with a disclaimer like that. What kind of bizarre culture have we created?

mcguire 6y ago

Another controversial comment: This is the other side of the Enlightenment ideal that the legitimacy of a government can only come from the support of its people. When you declare another people to be, literally, Satan, there may be resulting consequences.

will4274 6y ago

Imagine being a programmer in Israel and hearing that the leader of a neighboring country wants to kill you and everybody you know. We're not unaware of the impact of sanctions. Fundamentally, starving a generation of Iranians of information and experience is worth it if leads to civil unrest and regime change, therefore preventing Iran's current leaders from committing the genocide they've said they want to commit so many times.

rabite 6y ago
Imagine being almost any other religion in the Middle East and learning that Israelis on a day to day basis are lobbying to carve your countries apart by imperialist wars via their American proxies, bulldozing the homes of your coethnics in Palestine, raping their children, forcibly hijacking their TVs and exposing their kids to pornographic broadcasts, organizing a famine in Syria by their Kurdish proxies, and occupying their homelands. It was only in 2006 that Shiites and the SSNP finally kicked them out of South Lebanon, where they regularly committed war atrocities. Add to this the historical genocides that the nation of Israel completed and rejoice in within their scriptures -- the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Jebusites, the Canaanites (the assault on which happened the day after the Israelites convinced them to get circumcized, then went door to door killing them while their dicks hurt) are all tribes that were completely physically wiped out by the Israelites. This argument should apply to Israel, which is the biggest per capita committer of genocide, land theft, rape, and fraud in the entire world. The entire history of Israel is one of genocide, from the ancient world to today. We need BDS now and a just society would absolutely shun your nation until they respect human rights.
- will4274 6y ago
  There's a lot in your post that's wrong and this comment won't allow me to correct all of it. Grabbing two: - the Arab nations don't consider themselves kin (or "coethnics" whatever that means) with the Palestinians. When Jordan and Egypt controlled the Palestinian territory, they treated the Palestinians worse then Israeli does today. - the groups that commit the vast majority of rape (per capita or otherwise) in the middle east are not Israeli. In most of the Muslim countries, it's legal to rape your wife. In some of them (such as Iran), men execute their daughters for being raped by their neighbors. One well known group (ISIS) was really into rape - and so Iran gave them money so they could rape more. If what you care about is rape, murder, and genocide, you're against Iran 100x as much as you're against Israel.