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Scihub is awesome but protesting copyright laws isn’t the solution, just like scihub is just a patch to the faulty system

by m3kw9 6y ago

qwerty456127 6y ago
How is protesting particular laws wrong? What else can people do? The problem is they seem to protest enforcement of a law rather than the law itself.
f6v 6y ago
> protesting ... laws isn’t the solution That’s gonna be my favorite quote here.
vageli 6y ago
Civil disobedience is sometimes required to rebut laws society no longer agrees with.
- HarryHirsch 6y ago
  You'd say that Scihub has crossed the line from civil disobedience into outright insurrection. That said, librarians were trying to work within the system, including raising public consciousness, unsubscribing whole journal packages that included high-profile journals, and nothing happened until Scihub came along. It's the best argument against Kriton that I've seen.
  - dredmorbius 6y ago
    Better known in English as Crito: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crito https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crito
    - HarryHirsch 6y ago
      Translation and interpretation here: https://www.amazon.com/-/dp/194989942X https://www.amazon.com/-/dp/194989942X 100 % can recommend.
      - dredmorbius 6y ago
        FJ Church's translation is available at the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/trialanddeathso00platgoog/page/n20/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/trialanddeathso00platgoog/page/n...
dredmorbius 6y ago
One may well ask, “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer is found in the fact that there are two types of laws: there are just laws, and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “An unjust law is no law at all.” -- Martin Luther King, Jr. https://letterfromjail.com https://letterfromjail.com
matheusmoreira 6y ago
> protesting copyright laws isn’t the solution Why not? We're supposed to just accept this? The US imposes these laws on the entire world via trade agreements and the world is supposed to simply go along with it?

Scihub is awesome but protesting copyright laws isn’t the solution, just like scihub is just a patch to the faulty system

by m3kw9 6y ago

Scihub is awesome but protesting copyright laws isn’t the solution, just like scihub is just a patch to the faulty system

qwerty456127 6y ago

How is protesting particular laws wrong? What else can people do? The problem is they seem to protest enforcement of a law rather than the law itself.

f6v 6y ago

> protesting ... laws isn’t the solution That’s gonna be my favorite quote here.

vageli 6y ago

Civil disobedience is sometimes required to rebut laws society no longer agrees with.

HarryHirsch 6y ago
You'd say that Scihub has crossed the line from civil disobedience into outright insurrection. That said, librarians were trying to work within the system, including raising public consciousness, unsubscribing whole journal packages that included high-profile journals, and nothing happened until Scihub came along. It's the best argument against Kriton that I've seen.
- dredmorbius 6y ago
  Better known in English as Crito: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crito https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crito
  - HarryHirsch 6y ago
    Translation and interpretation here: https://www.amazon.com/-/dp/194989942X https://www.amazon.com/-/dp/194989942X 100 % can recommend.
    - dredmorbius 6y ago
      FJ Church's translation is available at the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/trialanddeathso00platgoog/page/n20/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/trialanddeathso00platgoog/page/n...

dredmorbius 6y ago

One may well ask, “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer is found in the fact that there are two types of laws: there are just laws, and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “An unjust law is no law at all.” -- Martin Luther King, Jr. https://letterfromjail.com https://letterfromjail.com

matheusmoreira 6y ago

> protesting copyright laws isn’t the solution Why not? We're supposed to just accept this? The US imposes these laws on the entire world via trade agreements and the world is supposed to simply go along with it?