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While the US sure is dominant, there are dozens of software companies larger than those in that list, e.g. Zoho has about $5B revenue, Baidu $11B, Tencent $23B,

While the US sure is dominant, there are dozens of software companies larger than those in that list, e.g. Zoho has about $5B revenue, Baidu $11B, Tencent $23B, Accenture $41B, ... The list employs some particular filters (e.g. SaaS seems to be excluded) and heavily emphasizes market cap over revenue.

namdnay 6y ago
I wouldn't consider Accenture a large software company. They do a lot of software "consultancy" (ie bodyshopping), but the nature of the consulting game plus their decentralized architecture (I've worked with Accenture, and the relationship between their different offices seems to be closer to co-franchisees than colleagues) means I wouldn't consider it a "big software company" (as in lots of people working on the same system/architecture
- mdoms 6y ago
  Yup they're not a big software company if you arbitrarily constrain the definition of software company. I could argue Google is not a big software company (as in lots of people working with mismatching socks and propeller hats). But that would be just as stupid.
  - namdnay 6y ago
    What I mean is that the overwhelming majority of Accenture (or TCS, or Deloitte, or IBM Consulting, or Infosys, or any other bodyshop) employees aren’t building software for Accenture, they’re being hired out. So that’s why I don’t consider Accenture a “software” company Would you consider Randstad to be a building company? They loan out hundreds of thousands of building contractors across the world
- icelancer 6y ago
  It doesn't matter anyway. Accenture is also an American company despite being incorporated in Ireland.
icelancer 6y ago
Baidu and Tencent are in China, hence why they were excluded from the discussion (since the poster specifically said US/China can't be trusted). Accenture is American-Irish and listed on the NYSE. Subject to US jurisdiction from a national, not global level.

namdnay 6y ago

I wouldn't consider Accenture a large software company. They do a lot of software "consultancy" (ie bodyshopping), but the nature of the consulting game plus their decentralized architecture (I've worked with Accenture, and the relationship between their different offices seems to be closer to co-franchisees than colleagues) means I wouldn't consider it a "big software company" (as in lots of people working on the same system/architecture

mdoms 6y ago
Yup they're not a big software company if you arbitrarily constrain the definition of software company. I could argue Google is not a big software company (as in lots of people working with mismatching socks and propeller hats). But that would be just as stupid.
- namdnay 6y ago
  What I mean is that the overwhelming majority of Accenture (or TCS, or Deloitte, or IBM Consulting, or Infosys, or any other bodyshop) employees aren’t building software for Accenture, they’re being hired out. So that’s why I don’t consider Accenture a “software” company Would you consider Randstad to be a building company? They loan out hundreds of thousands of building contractors across the world
icelancer 6y ago
It doesn't matter anyway. Accenture is also an American company despite being incorporated in Ireland.

icelancer 6y ago

Baidu and Tencent are in China, hence why they were excluded from the discussion (since the poster specifically said US/China can't be trusted). Accenture is American-Irish and listed on the NYSE. Subject to US jurisdiction from a national, not global level.