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Is GitHub going to take itself down when one of their employees goes to Iran for holiday and logs into their GitHub account? If not, then why are they treating

Is GitHub going to take itself down when one of their employees goes to Iran for holiday and logs into their GitHub account? If not, then why are they treating others with such contempt?

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ceejayoz 6y ago
GitHub is in possession of substantial additional information in that scenario, namely, "we're quite certain we don't have Iranian employees on staff".
- viseztrance 6y ago
  Do they keep an up to date database on who's dating whom?
  - IThinkImOKAY 6y ago
    yes
  - offtop5 6y ago
    Funny Story. When I went to London for the first time I meet a ridiculously attractive Swedish Arab girl. She had mentioned she really wanted to visit America, but with the recent election of Donald Trump she was a bit scared. Not all of us like Eastern European women, Trump blocked my game right there. The point of this story is anyone can meet anyone from anywhere and the nasty racist system the US has for blocking certain people because they have the wrong last names or whatever doesn't do anyone any service. I also don't think embargo serve anything aside from radicalizing other people's. Take Vietnam, now you have Coca-Cola, and McDonald's succeeding to do what 20 to 30 years of Western imposition couldn't, they've made Vietnam capitalist. That was accomplished once the embargoes were removed in the nineties. Even with Cuba ,I'd imagine if the embargo didn't exist you'd see much more reform as individuals would eventually be able to succeed on their own merits.
heisenbit 6y ago
I think it is ridiculous to treat this misbehavior of letting someone log in from Iran as a mere transgression of a subsidiary. Clearly Microsoft needs to shut down all their servers as they are paying for Github.
vegannet 6y ago
I can’t speak for Microsoft but certainly at Amazon there was a very strict policy about working from specific US locales for tax liability reasons: it wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn Microsoft employees are quite explicitly banned from ever taking equipment into places like Iran. Would they ban themselves if it did happen? No, but also it should never happen vs. this case where they have an employee working from Iran.
astura 6y ago
I'd imagine Github/Microsoft has extremely strict rules about not taking company resources to, or performing any work at, or accessing any company resources from countries that are embargoed. This simply wouldn't happen at my company because special permission is needed to take any company assets out of the country. If anyone at my company casually took a company laptop to Iran that would be instant termination. It absolutely astonishes me that a company wouldn't have a policy about taking company resources to foreign countries.
- meesles 6y ago
  My startup had similar rules when we were only 10 people. Beyond just the Iran issue, it's known that trade secrets on employee laptops are at risk when crossing some international borders, particularly in airports. Border agents can confiscate electronic devices on vague suspicions, compel you to unlock them (or hack them open in some cases), and then leave them in unsupervised settings with yet more border agents who have the barest electronic security training. These risks terrified me during my travels!
  - astura 6y ago
    Right - this is actually the main reason for such policies; we receive regular training on this. All devices are subject to search, seizure, and duplication when crossing international borders and border agents may tamper with devices as well. If assets cross borders there has to be a good reason, it has to be documented, and phones/computers may have to be scrubbed before and after depending on circumstances.
- diebeforei485 6y ago
  This is not the case at most large companies (FAANG) - no special permission is required to take a laptop with you across borders. They'd generally rather you have your laptop with you so you can get work done. Regardless, this person logged into GitHub, which could have been from any device including a phone.
  - astura 6y ago
mugivarra69 6y ago
its simple, they dont pass a background check on them probably.

Is GitHub going to take itself down when one of their employees goes to Iran for holiday and logs into their GitHub account? If not, then why are they treating others with such contempt?

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ceejayoz 6y ago

GitHub is in possession of substantial additional information in that scenario, namely, "we're quite certain we don't have Iranian employees on staff".

viseztrance 6y ago
Do they keep an up to date database on who's dating whom?
- IThinkImOKAY 6y ago
  yes
- offtop5 6y ago
  Funny Story. When I went to London for the first time I meet a ridiculously attractive Swedish Arab girl. She had mentioned she really wanted to visit America, but with the recent election of Donald Trump she was a bit scared. Not all of us like Eastern European women, Trump blocked my game right there. The point of this story is anyone can meet anyone from anywhere and the nasty racist system the US has for blocking certain people because they have the wrong last names or whatever doesn't do anyone any service. I also don't think embargo serve anything aside from radicalizing other people's. Take Vietnam, now you have Coca-Cola, and McDonald's succeeding to do what 20 to 30 years of Western imposition couldn't, they've made Vietnam capitalist. That was accomplished once the embargoes were removed in the nineties. Even with Cuba ,I'd imagine if the embargo didn't exist you'd see much more reform as individuals would eventually be able to succeed on their own merits.

heisenbit 6y ago

I think it is ridiculous to treat this misbehavior of letting someone log in from Iran as a mere transgression of a subsidiary. Clearly Microsoft needs to shut down all their servers as they are paying for Github.

vegannet 6y ago

I can’t speak for Microsoft but certainly at Amazon there was a very strict policy about working from specific US locales for tax liability reasons: it wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn Microsoft employees are quite explicitly banned from ever taking equipment into places like Iran. Would they ban themselves if it did happen? No, but also it should never happen vs. this case where they have an employee working from Iran.

astura 6y ago

I'd imagine Github/Microsoft has extremely strict rules about not taking company resources to, or performing any work at, or accessing any company resources from countries that are embargoed. This simply wouldn't happen at my company because special permission is needed to take any company assets out of the country. If anyone at my company casually took a company laptop to Iran that would be instant termination. It absolutely astonishes me that a company wouldn't have a policy about taking company resources to foreign countries.

meesles 6y ago
My startup had similar rules when we were only 10 people. Beyond just the Iran issue, it's known that trade secrets on employee laptops are at risk when crossing some international borders, particularly in airports. Border agents can confiscate electronic devices on vague suspicions, compel you to unlock them (or hack them open in some cases), and then leave them in unsupervised settings with yet more border agents who have the barest electronic security training. These risks terrified me during my travels!
- astura 6y ago
  Right - this is actually the main reason for such policies; we receive regular training on this. All devices are subject to search, seizure, and duplication when crossing international borders and border agents may tamper with devices as well. If assets cross borders there has to be a good reason, it has to be documented, and phones/computers may have to be scrubbed before and after depending on circumstances.
diebeforei485 6y ago
This is not the case at most large companies (FAANG) - no special permission is required to take a laptop with you across borders. They'd generally rather you have your laptop with you so you can get work done. Regardless, this person logged into GitHub, which could have been from any device including a phone.
- astura 6y ago

mugivarra69 6y ago

its simple, they dont pass a background check on them probably.