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The medical system is stretched to breaking. Vaccine distribution is completely disorganized, despite months of possible preparation time. A ridiculous patch

The medical system is stretched to breaking. Vaccine distribution is completely disorganized, despite months of possible preparation time. A ridiculous patchwork of federal, state, county authorities can't get it together to enforce rules and can only ask for voluntary cooperation in a true crisis. I think we will look back on this as one of the great weaknesses of decentralized, democratic, random-walk governance, fueled by misinformation and lack of leadership.

ixacto 6y ago
More people will die from covid. But the principals of free speech and assembly should not be sacrificed for something that will be and mostly gone in 6-9months. Yes people have died and that is horrible, but a dictatorship like china is not the answer. Tbh I'm more afraid of the governments authoritarianism than covid. *Disclaimer: yes I wear a mask indoors in public places and outdoors when not able to be 6 feet from everyone. No I don't wear a mask when walking alone outside, that is stupid and just shows how much our messaging on covid sucked even with the middle and upper classes.
- EliRivers 6y ago
  But the principals of free speech and assembly should not be sacrificed for something that will be and mostly gone in 6-9months. Why not? Ultimately, people are what matters. You know who can't exercise free speech and assembly? Dead people. Why is a 6 month hard lockdown worse than letting people keep walking around for 6 months? This sounds like a moral, absolutist statement you're making; like life is an art project, and the aim is to exercise some particular set of principles. (Free speech? What's the threat to free speech here? Is it the people spreading bullshit and conspiracy about Covid that's getting people killed?)
  - ixacto 6y ago
    Because I don't trust the federal and state governments to act in my best interests. This is not too say that some are acting in the best interests of the people as I am sure some in government do mean well, but not to blindly trust that the government knows best about our public helath. China/Vietnam have stopped covid, that's great but you can't exercise many of the freedoms that are allowed here. Imagine if someone tried to fly a baby Xi balloon in China, or even practice a religion without fearing persecution or death? Or even mention tiananmen square massacre or the death toll from the Great Leap Forward... That is still going on and yet we are looking to China style lockdowns as a model of how to deal with Covid.
- vkou 6y ago
  You are posing a false dichotomy. Free speech is not at odds with competent governance.
- triceratops 6y ago
  > But the principals of free speech and assembly should not be sacrificed I can't exercise my right to free assembly in good conscience when a pandemic is going on. I can't walk into a business with my mask off, which is literally an infringement on my right to free speech. I'd rather finish off the pandemic quickly and have full rights back than live with half "rights".

ixacto 6y ago

More people will die from covid. But the principals of free speech and assembly should not be sacrificed for something that will be and mostly gone in 6-9months. Yes people have died and that is horrible, but a dictatorship like china is not the answer. Tbh I'm more afraid of the governments authoritarianism than covid. *Disclaimer: yes I wear a mask indoors in public places and outdoors when not able to be 6 feet from everyone. No I don't wear a mask when walking alone outside, that is stupid and just shows how much our messaging on covid sucked even with the middle and upper classes.

EliRivers 6y ago
But the principals of free speech and assembly should not be sacrificed for something that will be and mostly gone in 6-9months. Why not? Ultimately, people are what matters. You know who can't exercise free speech and assembly? Dead people. Why is a 6 month hard lockdown worse than letting people keep walking around for 6 months? This sounds like a moral, absolutist statement you're making; like life is an art project, and the aim is to exercise some particular set of principles. (Free speech? What's the threat to free speech here? Is it the people spreading bullshit and conspiracy about Covid that's getting people killed?)
- ixacto 6y ago
  Because I don't trust the federal and state governments to act in my best interests. This is not too say that some are acting in the best interests of the people as I am sure some in government do mean well, but not to blindly trust that the government knows best about our public helath. China/Vietnam have stopped covid, that's great but you can't exercise many of the freedoms that are allowed here. Imagine if someone tried to fly a baby Xi balloon in China, or even practice a religion without fearing persecution or death? Or even mention tiananmen square massacre or the death toll from the Great Leap Forward... That is still going on and yet we are looking to China style lockdowns as a model of how to deal with Covid.
vkou 6y ago
You are posing a false dichotomy. Free speech is not at odds with competent governance.
triceratops 6y ago
> But the principals of free speech and assembly should not be sacrificed I can't exercise my right to free assembly in good conscience when a pandemic is going on. I can't walk into a business with my mask off, which is literally an infringement on my right to free speech. I'd rather finish off the pandemic quickly and have full rights back than live with half "rights".