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There’s enough evidence for medication and preventive supplements (Ivermectin, Vitamin D) that lockdowns aren’t necessary anymore. Other treatments have looked

There’s enough evidence for medication and preventive supplements (Ivermectin, Vitamin D) that lockdowns aren’t necessary anymore. Other treatments have looked promising when applied early in the disease instead of after hospitalisation. According to combined research (c19study.com) over 800,000 lives could’ve been saved when treated earlier

adrianN 6y ago
If there were such evidence I doubt that so many countries would fuck over their economy with lockdowns, so I have strong doubts about your claim.
- highmastdon 6y ago
  Turkey has been treating people with HCQ from May onwards, despite outcomes of the now-retracted(!) study once published in The Lancet, and they have a very low death rate. 256/1M Population. (See: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-turkey-lancet-study-who-trial https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hydroxychloroquine-corona...) Their death rate has been on a steady 1% throughout the pandemic where for example Germany is on about 3%. Of course this needs to be corrected for age etc etc.
  - adrianN 6y ago
    It also needs to be corrected for test strategy.
  - saberdancer 6y ago
    The median age in Turkey is 31.5 years. The median age in Germany is 45.7 years.
geewee 6y ago
You realize this is crazy-talk right? No country has avoided a pretty wild amount of casualties without locking down. If the evidence was so strong, you'd think at least one of them would have succeeded with this strategy.
remote_phone 6y ago
There’s nothing except lockdowns that will stop what is happening in LA right now. It will be quick and effective and we really don’t have any other tool. We still don’t have a prophylaxis or treatment. People are going to die that shouldn’t be dying and I’m not just talking about COVID patients. When hospitals are full, people die. Ivermectin is not a supplement. It’s an expensive anti-scabies drug. I’ve read it’s supposedly somewhat effective but I haven’t seen anyone implement it in treatment yet at least in the US. I’m familiar with the IMASK+ protocol. I believe they are using that in Peru but it doesn’t appear to have been making any changes in the death rate.
CyanLite4 6y ago
The vaccine is more effective. But we have 35 million doses stuck in warehouses around the U.S. because we don’t have a credible distribution plan. No way we’d be able to mass distribute vitamins to the general population. Not to mention the reluctance due to anti-vaxx social media memes.

adrianN 6y ago

If there were such evidence I doubt that so many countries would fuck over their economy with lockdowns, so I have strong doubts about your claim.

highmastdon 6y ago
Turkey has been treating people with HCQ from May onwards, despite outcomes of the now-retracted(!) study once published in The Lancet, and they have a very low death rate. 256/1M Population. (See: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-turkey-lancet-study-who-trial https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hydroxychloroquine-corona...) Their death rate has been on a steady 1% throughout the pandemic where for example Germany is on about 3%. Of course this needs to be corrected for age etc etc.
- adrianN 6y ago
  It also needs to be corrected for test strategy.
- saberdancer 6y ago
  The median age in Turkey is 31.5 years. The median age in Germany is 45.7 years.

geewee 6y ago

You realize this is crazy-talk right? No country has avoided a pretty wild amount of casualties without locking down. If the evidence was so strong, you'd think at least one of them would have succeeded with this strategy.

remote_phone 6y ago

There’s nothing except lockdowns that will stop what is happening in LA right now. It will be quick and effective and we really don’t have any other tool. We still don’t have a prophylaxis or treatment. People are going to die that shouldn’t be dying and I’m not just talking about COVID patients. When hospitals are full, people die. Ivermectin is not a supplement. It’s an expensive anti-scabies drug. I’ve read it’s supposedly somewhat effective but I haven’t seen anyone implement it in treatment yet at least in the US. I’m familiar with the IMASK+ protocol. I believe they are using that in Peru but it doesn’t appear to have been making any changes in the death rate.

CyanLite4 6y ago

The vaccine is more effective. But we have 35 million doses stuck in warehouses around the U.S. because we don’t have a credible distribution plan. No way we’d be able to mass distribute vitamins to the general population. Not to mention the reluctance due to anti-vaxx social media memes.