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Please, next time you will tell people to exercise and not to be morbidly obese. BTW read the article, it talks about already dead people with no pulse.

brodie 6y ago
On a more serious, thought out note: It is kind of interesting seeing the rise of home pulse oximeter products (due to the pandemic).
- multjoy 6y ago
  They are so cheap now that there really is no reason to not have one in the bathroom cabinet.
baskire 6y ago
I’m curious if covid will finally change the liberal belief that being morbidly obese is ok and shouldn’t be viewed similar to smoking. Our food policies have failed us. Like honestly allowing a single serving of food/drink to have multiple “servings” on their labels is crazy. A single hot-bun is 1 serving not 2.5
- gizmo686 6y ago
  It is not the mainstream liberal position that obesity is not a health issue. Michele Obama is still one of the most popular figures in American politics; and her signature issue was fighting childhood obesity.
  - throw473388 6y ago
    That is not really a problem, but acceptance is. Making your child obese should be treated as a child abuse. Obese people should be treaded the same way as smokers, not to get disability benefits.
    - adrianN 6y ago
      I'm pretty sure people with smoking related COPD get disability benefits.
      - throw473388 6y ago
        Good luck with SSA application, if you refuse to stop smoking :)
- dawnerd 6y ago
  Yea I think you got the sides mixed up there. The only time I’ve heard a liberal defend obesity was in response to body shaming - which is a problem and doesn’t help the person get in shape.
  - adrianN 6y ago
    How strong is the data that body shaming doesn't help people get in shape?
    - VBprogrammer 6y ago
      I know your comment is coming from the right place here but it reads to me like "how strong is the evidence that straight conversion doesn't work for homosexually?". I think these is some merit to the arguement that we should treat obese people (in the interest of full disclosure I'm usually in the overweight category by BMI) in the same way we treat smokers. Reduce temptation, avoid glamourising unhealthy foods, remove hidden sugers etc. Fat shaming is like going up to each smoker you see on the street and screaming "eww that stinks" in their face.
      - throw473388 6y ago
        Contries with lower obesity acceptance have much lower obesity rate. Compare US & UK to rest of the world. Comparing yourself to gays is just #&#+$+
        amanaplanacanal 6y ago
        I would bet that acceptance follows the rate, not vice versa.
        dang 6y ago
        Please stop posting flamewar comments, and definitely please don't create accounts to post flamewar comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - 6y ago
- free652 6y ago
  Liberal? Why throw politics into this? I am going to bet that conservatives are fatter on average than liberals.
  - covid21 6y ago
    Why?
    - rsynnott 6y ago
      Assuming they're talking about the US, where being older rather than younger, being rural/exurban rather than urban/suburban, and being male rather than female are all indicators for both political conservatism and obesity, this is very likely to be the case. Hard to prove without some very peculiar polling, but it is statistically very likely.
      - covid21 6y ago
        But aren't for example poor people and minorities often overweight, and they would tend to be liberals? I'd like to see some hard numbers before I believe your claim.
- vkou 6y ago
  There hasn't been a liberal belief that obesity is some optimal state of being, but it is a polite society belief that crapping on an obese person is rude. Most people aren't stupid. If they aren't in shape, they know it. They generally appreciate not being mocked about it by random strangers.
- dang 6y ago
  Would you please stop posting ideological flamebait to HN? You've done it repeatedly, and it's not what this site is for. Taking threads on flamewar tangents is particularly destructive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: actually it looks like this account is being used primarily for political and ideological battle. We ban that sort of account, and eventually people's main account as well if they keep doing it. I've banned this one. Please don't create accounts to break HN's guidelines with. If I've misread you and you actually want to use HN as intended, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

brodie 6y ago

On a more serious, thought out note: It is kind of interesting seeing the rise of home pulse oximeter products (due to the pandemic).

multjoy 6y ago
They are so cheap now that there really is no reason to not have one in the bathroom cabinet.

baskire 6y ago

I’m curious if covid will finally change the liberal belief that being morbidly obese is ok and shouldn’t be viewed similar to smoking. Our food policies have failed us. Like honestly allowing a single serving of food/drink to have multiple “servings” on their labels is crazy. A single hot-bun is 1 serving not 2.5

gizmo686 6y ago
It is not the mainstream liberal position that obesity is not a health issue. Michele Obama is still one of the most popular figures in American politics; and her signature issue was fighting childhood obesity.
- throw473388 6y ago
  That is not really a problem, but acceptance is. Making your child obese should be treated as a child abuse. Obese people should be treaded the same way as smokers, not to get disability benefits.
  - adrianN 6y ago
    I'm pretty sure people with smoking related COPD get disability benefits.
    - throw473388 6y ago
      Good luck with SSA application, if you refuse to stop smoking :)
dawnerd 6y ago
Yea I think you got the sides mixed up there. The only time I’ve heard a liberal defend obesity was in response to body shaming - which is a problem and doesn’t help the person get in shape.
- adrianN 6y ago
  How strong is the data that body shaming doesn't help people get in shape?
  - VBprogrammer 6y ago
    I know your comment is coming from the right place here but it reads to me like "how strong is the evidence that straight conversion doesn't work for homosexually?". I think these is some merit to the arguement that we should treat obese people (in the interest of full disclosure I'm usually in the overweight category by BMI) in the same way we treat smokers. Reduce temptation, avoid glamourising unhealthy foods, remove hidden sugers etc. Fat shaming is like going up to each smoker you see on the street and screaming "eww that stinks" in their face.
    - throw473388 6y ago
      Contries with lower obesity acceptance have much lower obesity rate. Compare US & UK to rest of the world. Comparing yourself to gays is just #&#+$+
      - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
        I would bet that acceptance follows the rate, not vice versa.
      - dang 6y ago
        Please stop posting flamewar comments, and definitely please don't create accounts to post flamewar comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - 6y ago
free652 6y ago
Liberal? Why throw politics into this? I am going to bet that conservatives are fatter on average than liberals.
- covid21 6y ago
  Why?
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    Assuming they're talking about the US, where being older rather than younger, being rural/exurban rather than urban/suburban, and being male rather than female are all indicators for both political conservatism and obesity, this is very likely to be the case. Hard to prove without some very peculiar polling, but it is statistically very likely.
    - covid21 6y ago
      But aren't for example poor people and minorities often overweight, and they would tend to be liberals? I'd like to see some hard numbers before I believe your claim.
vkou 6y ago
There hasn't been a liberal belief that obesity is some optimal state of being, but it is a polite society belief that crapping on an obese person is rude. Most people aren't stupid. If they aren't in shape, they know it. They generally appreciate not being mocked about it by random strangers.
dang 6y ago
Would you please stop posting ideological flamebait to HN? You've done it repeatedly, and it's not what this site is for. Taking threads on flamewar tangents is particularly destructive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: actually it looks like this account is being used primarily for political and ideological battle. We ban that sort of account, and eventually people's main account as well if they keep doing it. I've banned this one. Please don't create accounts to break HN's guidelines with. If I've misread you and you actually want to use HN as intended, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.