Audrey Tang (featured in the audio) conducted a long form interview with Tyler Cowen a few months ago in which they talked about this kind of civic development.

Audrey Tang (featured in the audio) conducted a long form interview with Tyler Cowen a few months ago in which they talked about this kind of civic development. https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/audrey-tang/ https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/audrey-tang/