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Are all the staff asking me for advice dumb too? I think I have acted very reasonably throughout, travelling when it was best, staying at home when it is bes

Are all the staff asking me for advice dumb too? I think I have acted very reasonably throughout, travelling when it was best, staying at home when it is best, that was not enough for your co-judge on this thread, who seems to think that I shouldn't go into work unless it is a matter of life and death, which is clearly not what the rules say.

chrisseaton 6y ago
'Reasonable'. That's the legal test - full stop. It's what we've used in the UK for a thousand years. It's because you can't cover all eventualities with a code system. The law communicates an intent. Work against that intent. Don't quibble the letter for the sake of it. If you aren't familiar with reasonableness then I guess you've beamed down from Mars in which case good luck to you!
- jimnotgym 6y ago
  Weird comment. I was actually claiming to have acted reasonably (because I understand the term), it was the poster before who claimed I had no right to make a judgement about what is reasonable. Please stop trolling
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    You asked why he didn't give a 'basic summary of what the new rules'. The rules are stay home unless you reasonably cannot do so. That's what he said. He didn't give a prescriptive set of rules because we live in a common law society. What else do you want? Stay home. Unless you reasonably cannot reasonably do so. If you have no common sense and aren't sure what is reasonable then you can argue it with a magistrate. Maybe err on the side of caution if you aren't sure?
    - jimnotgym 6y ago
      I would not argue a legal point with a magistrate, because magistrates are not lawyers and do not have legal qualifications. They are enthusiastic amateurs. They are a feudal hangover, and are just as likely to bang on repeatedly about how it has 'been this way for a 1000 years' than to offer you a learned opinion. It is unreasonably late and I'm done feeding trolls. Goodnight
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        > I would not argue a legal point with a magistrate, because magistrates are not lawyers and do not have legal qualifications. They are enthusiastic amateurs. Well that's literally who'd you'd be arguing it with if someone disagreed! Whether you liked it or not! Seriously though - 'reasonable' - that's the only answer. Apply that test using your common sense. That's what common law and society asks you to do - be reasonable.
- midasuni 6y ago
  If you want to test your eyesight is it reasonable to drive 40 miles to a castle on your birthday?
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    If you think it's reasonable then do so. You may have to debate it with a magistrate if society does not think it's reasonable.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    Now you're just taking a cheap, sarcastic shot at what happened with Dominic Cummings, which is totally irrelevant. It's possible to be honest and to agree that the PM's speech was on point without being clouded by political bias about him or the Tories.
  - nicky0 6y ago
    You know, he didn't drive to a castle. He drove to a town called Barnard Castle.

chrisseaton 6y ago

'Reasonable'. That's the legal test - full stop. It's what we've used in the UK for a thousand years. It's because you can't cover all eventualities with a code system. The law communicates an intent. Work against that intent. Don't quibble the letter for the sake of it. If you aren't familiar with reasonableness then I guess you've beamed down from Mars in which case good luck to you!

jimnotgym 6y ago
Weird comment. I was actually claiming to have acted reasonably (because I understand the term), it was the poster before who claimed I had no right to make a judgement about what is reasonable. Please stop trolling
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  You asked why he didn't give a 'basic summary of what the new rules'. The rules are stay home unless you reasonably cannot do so. That's what he said. He didn't give a prescriptive set of rules because we live in a common law society. What else do you want? Stay home. Unless you reasonably cannot reasonably do so. If you have no common sense and aren't sure what is reasonable then you can argue it with a magistrate. Maybe err on the side of caution if you aren't sure?
  - jimnotgym 6y ago
    I would not argue a legal point with a magistrate, because magistrates are not lawyers and do not have legal qualifications. They are enthusiastic amateurs. They are a feudal hangover, and are just as likely to bang on repeatedly about how it has 'been this way for a 1000 years' than to offer you a learned opinion. It is unreasonably late and I'm done feeding trolls. Goodnight
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      > I would not argue a legal point with a magistrate, because magistrates are not lawyers and do not have legal qualifications. They are enthusiastic amateurs. Well that's literally who'd you'd be arguing it with if someone disagreed! Whether you liked it or not! Seriously though - 'reasonable' - that's the only answer. Apply that test using your common sense. That's what common law and society asks you to do - be reasonable.
midasuni 6y ago
If you want to test your eyesight is it reasonable to drive 40 miles to a castle on your birthday?
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  If you think it's reasonable then do so. You may have to debate it with a magistrate if society does not think it's reasonable.
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  Now you're just taking a cheap, sarcastic shot at what happened with Dominic Cummings, which is totally irrelevant. It's possible to be honest and to agree that the PM's speech was on point without being clouded by political bias about him or the Tories.
- nicky0 6y ago
  You know, he didn't drive to a castle. He drove to a town called Barnard Castle.