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ZX81 Webserver
- jagged-chisel 6y agoSelf-signed cert, and I have to login? Seems suspicious...
- Technically 6y agoWhat do you suspect?
- tyingq 6y agoInteresting. It's not an https link. Did it redirect somewhere for you when it was working? Edit: Ahh, I see. You do get a page if you change http to https in the link. It appears to be the login page for a Ubiquiti router, where "self signed+ login" would be pretty normal.
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- lights0123 6y agoThat's likely especially now that Firefox launched a mode that will redirect all HTTP links to HTTPS, only optionally failing back if it didn't work.
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- mgkimsal 6y agoI think it's been slashdotted...
- tpmx 6y agoWell, the concept is glorious. It's not accessible at the moment though. (Memories of me and my mom buying a weirdo european-phono/antenna-to-cable-shoe adapter from a local TV store to make the ZX81 work with the black and white TV from the 1960s we had in the summer cottage, so that I could continue my obsession with the ZX81 I had "inherited" from a richer relative in 1984. I was 7. I'm amazed my parents believed in me so much. And that they spent insame amounts of money, realtive to their income, later on...
- gerdesj 6y agoI suspect lots of us here have some very odd memories! I used a ZX80/81/Speccy at school and at friend's houses and we eventually ended up with a C-64 at home. I still have it now and it has USB nowadays.
- stevekemp 6y agoVery much so, I started programming on the 48k rubber-keyed Speccy, and I know I'm not alone: https://blog.steve.fi/how_i_started_programming.html https://blog.steve.fi/how_i_started_programming.html
- 8fingerlouie 6y agoI spent days entering code on the Spectrum 48k from a magazine just to play space invaders. We had a radio show on a local station being broadcast every friday evening at 22:00 where various open source programs for different platforms (C64, ZX Spectrum, Amstrad, etc) would be aired. You could then record the show (which consisted mostly of "whiirrrzzzzzzbrbrrzzziii"), and load the programs on your computer of choice. Those were the days where you'd spend hours browsing your local magazine shop for new and exiting computer magazines, and debugging included reading manuals, and not just pasting code from StackOverflow :) I often think back to the world when i was a kid, and while the Internet has certainly made a lot of things easier, i'm not always convinced that it's actually helping. When answers to every question you have are readily available, what happens to curiosity ? At age 11 i could hook up just about any home computer, program in BASIC, could take apart electronics and fix them (which was a lot easier back then). I learned by taking things apart (and rarely breaking them in the process), and for those more specialized things (electronics) there were evening classes for kids. We had a "programming class" when i was a kid that was basically just a lab. Show up at 18:30 and "here's a RC 700 Piccolo (https://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=650 https://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=650) to use for whatever you like". There was no set program, and the instructor was the other kids in class. Those were the best classes i've ever taken.
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- tyingq 6y agoSince the linked website is under siege, here's something else related to look at. I believe it's probably powered by the SpectraNet card. You can read about that here: https://www.bytedelight.com/?page_id=3515 https://www.bytedelight.com/?page_id=3515 The manual for it: https://www.bytedelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Spectranet-Manual.pdf https://www.bytedelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Spect... Edit: It's now apparently using a ZeddyNet adapter instead of the SpectraNet. Info on that: https://www.sinclairzxworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=1771 https://www.sinclairzxworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=1771 Here's a wayback machine cached copy of a different Sinclair ZX-81 web server: https://web.archive.org/web/20190402161928/http://zx81-siggi.endoftheinternet.org/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190402161928/http://zx81-siggi...
- codetrotter 6y agoArchived snapshot of OP link: https://archive.vn/GxV04 https://archive.vn/GxV04
- ksec 6y ago>Since the linked website is under siege I still dont quite understand how most web page dont have CDN / Cloudflare. Especially those static pages.
- thinkingemote 6y agoMost of the web doesn't get slashdotted.
- ksec 6y agoIt's called HN hug of death. But wow I haven't heard of the term Slahdotted for a very long time.
- haspoken 6y agoHere is a screen shot of the page. The only difference between this and what I looked at before it went down was there was a small screen capture of a trex in a maze from the game 3d Monster Maze. http://archive.is/GxV04 http://archive.is/GxV04
- tyingq 6y agoHere's the link to Zeddynet (mentioned on the page), which is apparently somewhat similar to the card I mentioned in a different comment. https://www.sinclairzxworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=1771 https://www.sinclairzxworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=1771
- rusk 6y agoIt’s quite colourful for something coming out of a Speccy ;-)
- varjag 6y agoThe thought of a ZX81-based server getting hammered by HN frontpage…
- tyingq 6y agoIt appears to be using a WizNet ethernet to parallel device. So, at least the tcp is offloaded to something else. But it would have to read and respond to page requests in the Z80.
- gamacodre 6y agoHopefully it's in FAST mode.
- Theodores 6y agoIf you are over 47 and from the UK then this joke is extremely funny. Laugh out loud funny. I don't believe anyone outside this niche truly gets it. Brilliant.
- deaddodo 6y agoMeh, I'd say anyone who remembers Turbo mode on PCs would understand the spirit, at least.
- robotresearcher 6y agoFAST mode disabled the screen raster output to allow more cycles for user code. The TV monitor was free to improvise its output, which for me was alarming rolling garbage and an audible whine. Turbo mode changed the clock speed, which was a less hectic experience.
- sgt 6y agoTurbo mode actually lowered the clock speed.
- empressplay 6y ago
- koreanguy 6y agoThis site can’t be reachedzx81-siggi.zx-team.org took too long to respond. Try: Checking the connection Checking the proxy and the firewall Running Windows Network Diagnostics ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT
- freitasm 6y agoIt would be good to put that server behind a service like Cloudflare - even the free tier. It would still be a ZX81 webserver but at least requests for files that could be cached would not hit the server... And everyone could visit this little experiment.
- dboreham 6y agoBy 'ek. ZX81 were a luxury to us. We 'ad t' make do wi'a ZX80 wi' extra 'eatsink bolted t'it three terminal regulator that we warmed us 'ands on in winter. An when it were on't blink we 'ada fall back on't MK14.
- dominicjj 6y agoLookshury.
- TheOtherHobbes 6y agoMK14? You were lucky! I 'ad a single 7400 quad-input NAND gate. I'd take it aht and look at it. Named it Black Beauty and all. Dint do much, but were still t'envy o t'village. Computer clubs'd come from Scarborough and Bridlington, even Durham, to look a' it. But you tell your young people now what it were like then and they don't believe you.
- sedatk 6y agoTo put it in the context, ZX81 came with 1KB RAM. A screenful of a BASIC program could easily fill the whole available memory and the computer would hang. You had to plug a 16KB expansion RAM to make it usable.
- roseway4 6y agoYou were lucky if the 16KB expansion pack stayed put. The connector was notoriously wobbly and unreliable, resulting in a crash and many more hours of copying game code from a magazine.
- ianmcgowan 6y agoMy RAM pack was liberally held in place with blutack - I saw something in the last month or so about a ribbon cable extender that fixed the wobble disconnects. That would have been great on day 3 of typing assembler into a REM statement - we only had one TV in the house. Probably where my penchant for working in the middle of the night comes from still :-)
- zimpenfish 6y agoYeah, my father built me a RAM pack ("I'm not paying that much when I can make one myself!" - he did a lot of embedded work with Z80s back then) and used a ribbon cable for the connector to avoid the wobble.
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- elvis70 6y agoAnd this included the VRAM, or rather the variable-size display file! Count 25 bytes + 1 byte per character [1] Hopefully, BASIC tokens were included in the character set. [1] https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/a/7974 https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/a/7974
- jansan 6y agoRemember not to press too hard on the keyboard as this will caus a hard reset. Not sure if this happened with all ZX81 models, but on a friend's model we had to be very careful when entering our elaborate programs not to cause a reset by typing too hard.
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y agoSigh... My first computer. Self soldered from a kit. And it worked at fist try!
- eurodancemag 6y agogreat