> For example, I've had people tell me that they don't support unions in tech because they'll be "paid less", or less competent engineers will be promoted faste

> For example, I've had people tell me that they don't support unions in tech because they'll be "paid less", or less competent engineers will be promoted faster. This is something that has always amazed me. Your typical tech worker does a lot of unpaid overtime under the guidance of a manager whose only merit to management is being friends with someone. It also has to retrain him/herself for free on it´s own spare time and by the time it reaches 35/40 it tends to be let go by not raising his/her salary anymore or by putting him/her in lower status position. (Not to mention working as a contractor for years, etc.). These are the kind of problems unions are expected to fight for. But every time someone mentions unions they go after the salary cap, time of service, etc, discourses.