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It took 2 days for the Moderna vaccine to be created, and it still hasn't been approved in the EU. We could be doing amazing things in bio with mRNA, Crisper an

It took 2 days for the Moderna vaccine to be created, and it still hasn't been approved in the EU. We could be doing amazing things in bio with mRNA, Crisper and deep learning but the entire thing is so wrapped up in regulation in order to protect the incumbents that it is not a space worth working in.

boringg 6y ago
2 days to determine what the Moderna vaccine should be from a computer. Building the vaccine, bio-reacting it to scale and testing across appropriate populations took a considerable amount of time. Health regulations are in place for a reason, to protect the public not to protect incumbents. Sometimes I am sure it does, other times it makes sure poor products don't go into the public market.
- outworlder 6y ago
  > 2 days to determine what the Moderna vaccine should be from a computer This step used to take years. And require state of the art facilities, with biohazard containment, viral samples, etc. Now? Given a virus sequence done in a lab on the other side of the planet, one can design a vaccine in a day. Sure, it took many years of research (and in coronaviruses in particular) to reach this stage, specially on how to stabilize the spike protein. But one cannot understate how amazing this new technology is. And then once done you can send the results to a machine to get it "built". At a low scale, sure, but it's still impressive. With the mRNA approach we no longer have to resort to things like using eggs to make the vaccines, we can use the cellular machinery for that. It's mind-boggling.
  - boringg 6y ago
    Oh I think you are misconstruing my statement. It is an incredible feat what’s been done on these vaccines. I assume you got youre intel from the bio eats world podcast. I’m pointing out that jumping the testing that slows the vaccine to market is a bad move.

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It took 2 days for the Moderna vaccine to be created, and it still hasn't been approved in the EU. We could be doing amazing things in bio with mRNA, Crisper an

by tomjen3 6y ago

boringg 6y ago
2 days to determine what the Moderna vaccine should be from a computer. Building the vaccine, bio-reacting it to scale and testing across appropriate populations took a considerable amount of time. Health regulations are in place for a reason, to protect the public not to protect incumbents. Sometimes I am sure it does, other times it makes sure poor products don't go into the public market.
- outworlder 6y ago
  > 2 days to determine what the Moderna vaccine should be from a computer This step used to take years. And require state of the art facilities, with biohazard containment, viral samples, etc. Now? Given a virus sequence done in a lab on the other side of the planet, one can design a vaccine in a day. Sure, it took many years of research (and in coronaviruses in particular) to reach this stage, specially on how to stabilize the spike protein. But one cannot understate how amazing this new technology is. And then once done you can send the results to a machine to get it "built". At a low scale, sure, but it's still impressive. With the mRNA approach we no longer have to resort to things like using eggs to make the vaccines, we can use the cellular machinery for that. It's mind-boggling.
  - boringg 6y ago
    Oh I think you are misconstruing my statement. It is an incredible feat what’s been done on these vaccines. I assume you got youre intel from the bio eats world podcast. I’m pointing out that jumping the testing that slows the vaccine to market is a bad move.