I hate the political bs side of these things. A bit turn off for me here in the UK is when unions spend capital (political or cash) on issues that don't help or

I hate the political bs side of these things. A bit turn off for me here in the UK is when unions spend capital (political or cash) on issues that don't help or even hurt their members. Teachers unions here supported more work and less money for them because "think of the children". Asking people to collectively bargain is very different to asking them to collectively sign up and forgo their wages over some weird political point of principle. The a two should be separate.