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To be fair there was quite a lot of lobbing of opinions as it pertained to his guilt and ability to be prosecuted. Including: “This conduct would amount to offe

by Bodell 6y ago

To be fair there was quite a lot of lobbing of opinions as it pertained to his guilt and ability to be prosecuted. Including: “This conduct would amount to offences in English law” and many , many other statements outlining exactly why she thought asking for information and publishing it would be considered aiding and abetting in espionage. I only got about 40 pages of skimming in, the documents is 130+ pages, but the vast majority of it was related to way the charges are felt to be appropriate in his case and very little evidence from the defense other than their broad objections.

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dragonwriter 6y ago
> To be fair there was quite a lot of lobbing of opinions as it pertained to his guilt and ability to be prosecuted. There's a difference between legally meaningful findings and lobbing opinion on legally non-germane questions. > Including: “This conduct would amount to offences in English law” That's a determination the court is called on to make in an extradition case under Section 137 of the Extradition Act.
- Bodell 6y ago
  I think maybe that determining the defense's evidence as not "legally meaning findings" constitutes an a opinion of some kind, even if only through exclusion. I mean 130 pages on why he is guilty does not quite say: We were only interested in making a mental health determination as some of the comments seem to suggest. Then again, maybe there is much more there that I did not read or understand properly. The conduct being refereed to is part of the issue many people are having here. As the defense argued the conduct is that of an investigative journalist. If such conduct constitutes an offense in the law, then some are worried that there is precedent to charge a wider range of conduct then previously though possible. Weather this is true or not remains to be seen I guess. Either way its a meaningful determination that this judge made.

by Bodell 6y ago

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dragonwriter 6y ago

> To be fair there was quite a lot of lobbing of opinions as it pertained to his guilt and ability to be prosecuted. There's a difference between legally meaningful findings and lobbing opinion on legally non-germane questions. > Including: “This conduct would amount to offences in English law” That's a determination the court is called on to make in an extradition case under Section 137 of the Extradition Act.

Bodell 6y ago
I think maybe that determining the defense's evidence as not "legally meaning findings" constitutes an a opinion of some kind, even if only through exclusion. I mean 130 pages on why he is guilty does not quite say: We were only interested in making a mental health determination as some of the comments seem to suggest. Then again, maybe there is much more there that I did not read or understand properly. The conduct being refereed to is part of the issue many people are having here. As the defense argued the conduct is that of an investigative journalist. If such conduct constitutes an offense in the law, then some are worried that there is precedent to charge a wider range of conduct then previously though possible. Weather this is true or not remains to be seen I guess. Either way its a meaningful determination that this judge made.