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I posted this in another thread- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25636761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25636761 The rumor in China is that Jack M
by guardiangod 6y ago
I posted this in another thread-
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25636761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25636761
The rumor in China is that Jack Ma is part of Jiang Zemin's clique of politicians/sphere of influence. Alibaba's backed by and invested by Jiang's families.
Xi has been purging Jiang's people/influence on the Central Government for the last few years to strengthen his ruling. Originally he was going to leave Ma alone as he has proven himself to be useful.
But 2 things happened- 1. people start to idolize Ma the businessman over the party's absolute rule. 2. Perhaps as a result Ma is embolden to speak out against Xi's government directions.
So now Ma has to go. Ma knew this and that's why he resigned from Alibaba's Chairman position, but it was too late. Ant Financial, with its main backers from Jiang's gang, was put to a standstill. This is only the first step. Expect the party to eventually to take over the Alibaba group (国进民退). No private civilian will be allowed to gain this much power again.
https://time.com/5926062/jack-ma/ https://time.com/5926062/jack-ma/
“There is no so-called [Ma] era,” read a recent headline in the CCP mouthpiece People’s Daily, “but only an era that has [Ma] in it.”
Anyway, to quote House of Cards-
“Such a waste of time. He chose money over power, in this town, a mistake nearly everyone makes. Money is the McMansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after ten years. Power — is the old stone building that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn’t see the difference.” - Frank Underwood
- Wowfunhappy 6y agoI've always thought that was a dumb line. Power can also crumble over time—more quickly than money, I would argue.
- arpa 6y agoAh it's just a false dichotomy. In reality these things go together. Can't have (real fuckoff) power without money; can't have (real fuckoff) money without power. If you don't have one but have another, you'll soon lose it.
- jjeaff 6y agoI think you can actually wield quite a bit of power without necessarily having a lot of money personally. Harry S Truman was one. There are quite a few senators and congresspeople today that don't have that much wealth to speak of. Ocasio-Cortez comes to mind. Quite a few with military backgrounds. Granted, many do eventually obtain wealth. But some like Biden stayed pretty average for his whole 50 years career in congress. Were it not for his proximity fame for being the VP to the first Black president in history, he likely wouldn't be wealthy today (seeing as the vast majority of his wealth is from a single book deal after leaving office). Yet these politicians inevitably wield a lot of power. In some cases, more than their wealthy counterparts. AOC has a lot of power just from her twitter account and star power.