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Agreed - it's certainly a left-leaning narrative. I don't understand the "why" of any of it anymore. The far-left folks are pro lockdown but also want to help

by eric_b 6y ago

Agreed - it's certainly a left-leaning narrative. I don't understand the "why" of any of it anymore. The far-left folks are pro lockdown but also want to help the underprivileged. No one is hurt worse by lockdowns. They want to defund the police, and yet by now even the hardened ideologue can admit that less police is maybe not a great plan. The left is anti-authoritarian but engages in almost textbook authoritarian behavior. (Cancel culture, democratic governors having emergency powers for 9+ months now etc etc) They hate capitalism but enjoy the byproducts (my most socialist friends can't get enough of Amazon prime - the irony is completely lost on them). There is just no way to reconcile the platform. It is completely incoherent.

TimTheTinker 6y ago
I’ve thought some more about this, and I think their platform is coherent if you assume their goal is power. Economic trouble and poverty help the left by making them the savior upon whom everyone is dependent. After all, it was the Great Depression that gave FDR’s New Deal a free pass in the first place — and that really was the beginning of the modern Democratic Party’s economic platform. They want people to be poor. That’s how they get the majority of their votes.
egypturnash 6y ago
"pro-lockdown" and "why the fuck are we giving people so little money" tend to go together, in my experience. Lock down for a month or two, give everyone more than enough money to cover rent/food/utilities and some entertainment (to keep from going insane), and greatly reduce the spread of this virus. But here we are in the US with a paltry $600 coming after the entire duration of this stupid, stupid pandemic. As to "defunding police", I like to rephrase it as "fund people, not police" - use those budgets to give people help before they get to the point where the police get involved, rather than having next to no safety net and a bunch of cops itching to use all the military hardware they've got. There you go, some coherence. Have a nice day.
- dullcrisp 6y ago
  Stop that. This thread is for inferring people's intentions and then coming up with appropriately cartoonish motivations. I personally think the author of this article is trying to give people clinical depression. But I'm having trouble figuring out how that fits into their leftist agenda. Maybe it's because leftists are themselves lazy and unmotivated, and they want to feel better about themselves by sabotaging others? But wouldn't they see that it's unfair to hurt other people just because of their own inadequacies? I don't know, what do you think? I can't figure it out.
  - TimTheTinker 6y ago
    Hm, guess the joke’s on me. I was being a little over the top but I was thinking somewhat seriously/curiously about the left agenda. Haha :-)
  - egypturnash 6y ago
    Here is a cartoon that pretty much sums up where I suspect the author of this article is: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/ea/6f/25ea6fd2546b3f007af4f3916f1b556f.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/ea/6f/25ea6fd2546b3f007af4... To be precise, they are in the top four panels, not the bottom five.
ksm1717 6y ago
Great rant, I liked how completely irrelevant it was

by eric_b 6y ago

TimTheTinker 6y ago

I’ve thought some more about this, and I think their platform is coherent if you assume their goal is power. Economic trouble and poverty help the left by making them the savior upon whom everyone is dependent. After all, it was the Great Depression that gave FDR’s New Deal a free pass in the first place — and that really was the beginning of the modern Democratic Party’s economic platform. They want people to be poor. That’s how they get the majority of their votes.

egypturnash 6y ago

"pro-lockdown" and "why the fuck are we giving people so little money" tend to go together, in my experience. Lock down for a month or two, give everyone more than enough money to cover rent/food/utilities and some entertainment (to keep from going insane), and greatly reduce the spread of this virus. But here we are in the US with a paltry $600 coming after the entire duration of this stupid, stupid pandemic. As to "defunding police", I like to rephrase it as "fund people, not police" - use those budgets to give people help before they get to the point where the police get involved, rather than having next to no safety net and a bunch of cops itching to use all the military hardware they've got. There you go, some coherence. Have a nice day.

dullcrisp 6y ago
Stop that. This thread is for inferring people's intentions and then coming up with appropriately cartoonish motivations. I personally think the author of this article is trying to give people clinical depression. But I'm having trouble figuring out how that fits into their leftist agenda. Maybe it's because leftists are themselves lazy and unmotivated, and they want to feel better about themselves by sabotaging others? But wouldn't they see that it's unfair to hurt other people just because of their own inadequacies? I don't know, what do you think? I can't figure it out.
- TimTheTinker 6y ago
  Hm, guess the joke’s on me. I was being a little over the top but I was thinking somewhat seriously/curiously about the left agenda. Haha :-)
- egypturnash 6y ago
  Here is a cartoon that pretty much sums up where I suspect the author of this article is: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/ea/6f/25ea6fd2546b3f007af4f3916f1b556f.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/ea/6f/25ea6fd2546b3f007af4... To be precise, they are in the top four panels, not the bottom five.

ksm1717 6y ago

Great rant, I liked how completely irrelevant it was