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No, what "entitles" them is that they do the work and generate the profit and therefore have the power to organize themselves into a coherent, self-interested g
by minimuffins 6y ago
No, what "entitles" them is that they do the work and generate the profit and therefore have the power to organize themselves into a coherent, self-interested group that can withhold their labor if they don't get what they want.
Who cares what you think they're "entitled" to?
- antisoeu 6y agoAs long as they get no special rights to form their unions, fine. In my country, unions get special protections by law, which is not OK. If workers simply choose to monopolize, of course they can do that. Of course laws against monopolies in general should then also be abolished, though. You can not be in favor of unions, but opposed to monopolies, as unions are also monopolies. In that sense, no, I don't care what they feel entitled to - there should just be no obligation to give them what they feel they are entitled to.
- minimuffins 6y agoWe're never going to have a productive discussion if you think capital and labor are the same thing.
- antisoeu 6y agoExactly how a discussion with a Marxist is expected to go down, just invent random concepts and twist the meaning of words until a discussion becomes impossible I prefer to stick to physics, rather than those arbitrary concepts of "capital" and "labor". Let's cut the bullshit and look at reality. Moving/changing things costs energy, that is the reality.