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Yep. Response to protests in the US is greeted with rubber bullets, lost eyesight, and maybe broken bones. Response to protests in China leads to people being

by screye 6y ago

Yep. Response to protests in the US is greeted with rubber bullets, lost eyesight, and maybe broken bones. Response to protests in China leads to people being crushed into literal chutney, and deaths in the 10s of thousands. That was the nature of deaths in tiananmen square, the photos of which often do not get shown in western media.[1] [1] https://www.aboluowang.com/2008/0529/89034.html https://www.aboluowang.com/2008/0529/89034.html (Warning: NSFL/Gore/Human remains ) ____ The US has a lot to work on, but comparing it to China is a false equivalency. edit: if this comment comes off as too emotionally charged/ visual, the mods can feel free to delete it.

kiliantics 6y ago
Actually a number of people die while protesting in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_during_the_George_Floyd_protests#Deaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_dur... More recently, they are usually killed by right wing extremists who are unofficially sanctioned by government and often not prosecuted.
- alavesto 6y ago
  >they are usually killed by right wing extremists who are unofficially sanctioned by government and often not prosecuted. Big citation needed here. You'd be hard pressed to find any deaths here that weren't obvious, often video-documented cases of self-defense. Even then, the state has zealously prosecuted them, in Jake Gardner's case overriding the local prosecutor's determination that no crime had been committed and leading Gardner to suicide. Most ridiculous of them all, Kyle Rittenhouse is facing murder charges when every single one of his so-called victims is on video assaulting him.
legulere 6y ago
On the other hand people become complacent when they achieve relative wealthiness. Economic success is also the basis of how the Chinese regime stays in power. The Tianmen Square protests are well known in the west (tank man is a very iconic picture known by basically everyone) contrary to your claim and if the sources on wikipedia are to be believed did not result in 10s of thousands of deaths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Other_estimates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests...). In general I think it is a constant struggle to keep society free from tyranny, and you should not torpedo that with comparisons with places that have it worse.
- CobrastanJorji 6y ago
  Speaking of the complacent wealthy, China disappeared Jack Ma two months ago for getting too comfortable and mildly criticizing the regime. He's China's Jeff Bezos, and he just went away with a poof.

by screye 6y ago

kiliantics 6y ago

Actually a number of people die while protesting in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_during_the_George_Floyd_protests#Deaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_dur... More recently, they are usually killed by right wing extremists who are unofficially sanctioned by government and often not prosecuted.

alavesto 6y ago
>they are usually killed by right wing extremists who are unofficially sanctioned by government and often not prosecuted. Big citation needed here. You'd be hard pressed to find any deaths here that weren't obvious, often video-documented cases of self-defense. Even then, the state has zealously prosecuted them, in Jake Gardner's case overriding the local prosecutor's determination that no crime had been committed and leading Gardner to suicide. Most ridiculous of them all, Kyle Rittenhouse is facing murder charges when every single one of his so-called victims is on video assaulting him.

legulere 6y ago

On the other hand people become complacent when they achieve relative wealthiness. Economic success is also the basis of how the Chinese regime stays in power. The Tianmen Square protests are well known in the west (tank man is a very iconic picture known by basically everyone) contrary to your claim and if the sources on wikipedia are to be believed did not result in 10s of thousands of deaths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Other_estimates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests...). In general I think it is a constant struggle to keep society free from tyranny, and you should not torpedo that with comparisons with places that have it worse.

CobrastanJorji 6y ago
Speaking of the complacent wealthy, China disappeared Jack Ma two months ago for getting too comfortable and mildly criticizing the regime. He's China's Jeff Bezos, and he just went away with a poof.