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The US has lost any shed of credibility when it comes to human rights or being a lawful state. War murderers go free and journslists go to prison.
by sschueller 6y ago
The US has lost any shed of credibility when it comes to human rights or being a lawful state. War murderers go free and journslists go to prison.
- CerealFounder 6y agoI think you're longing for a US that never was. Its always been about who has "the right power" and who doesnt. Everything from Mccarthyism to the Salem Witch Hunt. it also stands to be said that America doesnt exist as America, instead as a revolving door of loosely defined groups that step up to the levers of power and try their luck. Its best to understand the actors instead of the machine. Its most often where the problem is.
- aqme28 6y agoI don't follow. You're saying that America has always been this way, yet the problem is not the system itself, but the specific people in power today?
- LeifCarrotson 6y agoI think OP may have stopped one or more causal links short of the systemic issue. In general, politics is vulnerable to actors who work in bad faith. You can blame the current power-hungry narcissistic wealthy sociopaths who are doing what power-hungry narcissistic wealthy sociopaths can be expected to do, or you can accept that there will always be people who fit that description and try to fix the incentives and checks that they're responding to.
- mam2 6y agoMove then, complaining on HN will not change reality
- sschueller 6y agoWhere to? Off planet seems to be the only place where the US doesn't have its fingers in.
- Alkhwarizmi 6y agoNo ONE is complaining on HN! He is stating his opinion on the current and past US relations, something which many of us can agree with. Furthermore, if your reasonse to each statement is “leave” then you don’t understand what fighting for the country you love means.
- randomopining 6y agoHow lol? You hold the US to the highest possible standard, without looking at every single other nation in the history of the world. US has the most credibility. Europe is great, but they live in a protective bubble offered by the US. Russia and/or China would steamroll them if able to. And those two countries are autocratic. We wouldn't even have a hackernews type thing there.
- unearth3d 6y agoFrom outside the US all we see is exceptional USians braying about how democratic, Christian they all are - it's vomitous to all thinking people. The other dictatorships don't do this afaict.
- randomopining 6y agoWhat are you talking about? Just because a loud minority say that, doesn’t represent the diversity of the US. Melting pot of the world. So just because you don’t like a loud subset of the US... you would rather support autocrat countries like China and Russia that are “quiet” and not vomitous. What a naive outlook.