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Notion is having a service interruption

63 points by stevekrouse 6y ago

Scandiravian 6y ago
The cascading "herd DDOS" of everyone moving from slack to other channels for communication has started
- SamBam 6y ago
  Do many teams use Notion as a way of communicating?
  - Scandiravian 6y ago
    Only when slack is down ;)
  - iamben 6y ago
    We mostly use Slack for communicating, but we use Notion for docs/planning/everything else
- djsumdog 6y ago
  So I guess TEAMS is next?
joana035 6y ago
Everybody trying to "autoscale" on the first work day of 2021?
balloneij 6y ago
Maybe they shouldn't use Slack as their backend /s
ibraheemdev 6y ago
> Investigating - Notion is currently experiencing an outage. We are currently investigating and will share further updates. - Jan 4, 08:09 PST 0: https://status.notion.so/ https://status.notion.so/
apta_ 6y ago
Seems there are several affected services https://downdetector.com/ https://downdetector.com/
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  It wouldn't surprise me if Indeed has most of its usage during the workday. https://downdetector.com/status/indeed/ https://downdetector.com/status/indeed/
- dgb23 6y ago
  What is happening here? Am I reading this correctly? These are outages on a massive scale, affecting several international web services and infrastructure?
- Scandiravian 6y ago
  I think you just identified a strong contender for "next service to crash" ;)
- pmiller2 6y ago
  I'm not sure if that's a normal spike, or not, but the recent spike in the graph there for AWS is a little ominous in context.
- tethys 6y ago
  Those graphs are really misleading. All of the services look severly affected [0], though the number of reports differs significantly from service to service. Slack: 16167 reports. Zoom: 224 reports. Google: 220 reports. [0] https://i.imgur.com/KeIlwuV.png https://i.imgur.com/KeIlwuV.png
  - derefr 6y ago
    I would expect the graphs to be normalized against a noise floor of how many people report the service being down "most of the time." (And looking into it, indeed they are — looks like, in the detail view of a chart, there's a long-term weighted-running-average "baseline" value on the chart's data-points. See e.g. the dotted blue line on https://downdetector.com/status/google/ https://downdetector.com/status/google/. And the summary view seems to normalize its charts by their baseline.)
bishnu 6y ago
Task managers must also have traffic spikes early in the new year...
lights0123 6y ago
Does HN feel particularly slow to other people today? It usually loads for me in <500ms, and page loads are taking ~5 seconds now when other websites are completely fine.
- dgb23 6y ago
  I experience the same issue. Could be that a ton of people are looking here for information regarding all these service outages and delays.
- spideymans 6y ago
  Yeah I thought there was something wrong with my connection
- deleted 6y ago
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- alvarlagerlof 6y ago
  Notion is always slow. So I stopped using it.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  I would assume that all the people who are usually on Slack or Notion are here right now and it's making the server unhappy.
  - ourcat 6y ago
    My thoughts exactly. (HN is slow here too, from the UK)
  - monkeybutton 6y ago
    It would be interesting to see a plot of activity and new submissions with large outages like slack marked on it.
- PedroBatista 6y ago
  Yes, but only since a couple minutes ago.
skuthus 6y ago
Over the course of the last year I have been working on building a personal zettlekasten. I started in Notion, making several relational databases. However, after experiencing some down time, I decided to switch to Obsidian (https://obsidian.md/ https://obsidian.md/) it's a much, much better program, does not have slowdown issues on my mac, is fully cross platform (Mac, Windows, Linux) and has a sync system that works pretty seamlessly. Not to mention that the files are all plain markdown and stored locally.
- jeanlucas 6y ago
  Another Obsidian here, not because I hate Notion, but I really don't trust depending on it being online.
- tailspin2019 6y ago
  Another vote for Obsidian here. It’s very good and the pace of their development is impressive. I don’t use the sync. Didn’t want a cloud element. All local-only for me!
  - skuthus 6y ago
    Totally - you can also easily sync it with your own service, if you don't want to use their sync service. The flexibility is definitely a huge selling point.
- bobbylarrybobby 6y ago
  > fully cross platform Does it have a mobile app? This is what’s keeping me on Notion for the time being.
  - joshstrange 6y ago
    No it doesn't which is what is keeping me from moving from Notion to it. It's really clean and fast but all the hacks to get access to your notes on mobile (other apps that sort of work with the obsidian data structure) are a turn-off right now. When they do get mobile apps out then I really want to try to move to it.
PedroBatista 6y ago
Probably due to their build bots and employees not being able to communicate through Slack.. ( joking, but.. )
maxclark 6y ago
So Notion's backend DB is actually Slack channels?
dawnerd 6y ago
They blamed AWS > For the last couple hours, Notion has been down. This is related to some difficulties Amazon Web Services is experiencing today. As of right now, our engineering team is all hands on deck working to restore service. We're confident these issues will be resolved soon, but in the meantime I'm so sorry for any problems or inconvenience this has caused. I know this is not ideal as everyone returns from break, and we'll be thoroughly investigating how to prevent outages like this in the future.
- bithavoc 6y ago
  I received that email but their status page doesn’t mention AWS anywhere, they just reported a fix has been implemented, so not AWS fault after all?
syamilmj 6y ago
Notion is about the only service today out of many other major platforms (see: https://downdetector.com https://downdetector.com) that cared to email me about the downtime. I’ve been a happy Notion user since about a year ago and this is probably the only one time I have experienced major downtime as far as I can remember.
mlacks 6y ago
Is there a way around the issues that cause service interruption? I was using self-hosted until my ISP proved itself to be unreliable, and moved to notion hoping that another host would have an easier time. Same issues - i need to update my CRM and am basically locked out of it until notion figures out the outage problem. is there another similar project that is al little more fault tolerant?

63 points by stevekrouse 6y ago

Scandiravian 6y ago

The cascading "herd DDOS" of everyone moving from slack to other channels for communication has started

SamBam 6y ago
Do many teams use Notion as a way of communicating?
- Scandiravian 6y ago
  Only when slack is down ;)
- iamben 6y ago
  We mostly use Slack for communicating, but we use Notion for docs/planning/everything else
djsumdog 6y ago
So I guess TEAMS is next?

joana035 6y ago

Everybody trying to "autoscale" on the first work day of 2021?

balloneij 6y ago

Maybe they shouldn't use Slack as their backend /s

ibraheemdev 6y ago

> Investigating - Notion is currently experiencing an outage. We are currently investigating and will share further updates. - Jan 4, 08:09 PST 0: https://status.notion.so/ https://status.notion.so/

apta_ 6y ago

Seems there are several affected services https://downdetector.com/ https://downdetector.com/

MattGaiser 6y ago
It wouldn't surprise me if Indeed has most of its usage during the workday. https://downdetector.com/status/indeed/ https://downdetector.com/status/indeed/
dgb23 6y ago
What is happening here? Am I reading this correctly? These are outages on a massive scale, affecting several international web services and infrastructure?
Scandiravian 6y ago
I think you just identified a strong contender for "next service to crash" ;)
pmiller2 6y ago
I'm not sure if that's a normal spike, or not, but the recent spike in the graph there for AWS is a little ominous in context.
tethys 6y ago
Those graphs are really misleading. All of the services look severly affected [0], though the number of reports differs significantly from service to service. Slack: 16167 reports. Zoom: 224 reports. Google: 220 reports. [0] https://i.imgur.com/KeIlwuV.png https://i.imgur.com/KeIlwuV.png
- derefr 6y ago
  I would expect the graphs to be normalized against a noise floor of how many people report the service being down "most of the time." (And looking into it, indeed they are — looks like, in the detail view of a chart, there's a long-term weighted-running-average "baseline" value on the chart's data-points. See e.g. the dotted blue line on https://downdetector.com/status/google/ https://downdetector.com/status/google/. And the summary view seems to normalize its charts by their baseline.)

bishnu 6y ago

Task managers must also have traffic spikes early in the new year...

lights0123 6y ago

Does HN feel particularly slow to other people today? It usually loads for me in <500ms, and page loads are taking ~5 seconds now when other websites are completely fine.

dgb23 6y ago
I experience the same issue. Could be that a ton of people are looking here for information regarding all these service outages and delays.
spideymans 6y ago
Yeah I thought there was something wrong with my connection
deleted 6y ago
[deleted]
alvarlagerlof 6y ago
Notion is always slow. So I stopped using it.
saagarjha 6y ago
I would assume that all the people who are usually on Slack or Notion are here right now and it's making the server unhappy.
- ourcat 6y ago
  My thoughts exactly. (HN is slow here too, from the UK)
- monkeybutton 6y ago
  It would be interesting to see a plot of activity and new submissions with large outages like slack marked on it.
PedroBatista 6y ago
Yes, but only since a couple minutes ago.

skuthus 6y ago

Over the course of the last year I have been working on building a personal zettlekasten. I started in Notion, making several relational databases. However, after experiencing some down time, I decided to switch to Obsidian (https://obsidian.md/ https://obsidian.md/) it's a much, much better program, does not have slowdown issues on my mac, is fully cross platform (Mac, Windows, Linux) and has a sync system that works pretty seamlessly. Not to mention that the files are all plain markdown and stored locally.

jeanlucas 6y ago
Another Obsidian here, not because I hate Notion, but I really don't trust depending on it being online.
tailspin2019 6y ago
Another vote for Obsidian here. It’s very good and the pace of their development is impressive. I don’t use the sync. Didn’t want a cloud element. All local-only for me!
- skuthus 6y ago
  Totally - you can also easily sync it with your own service, if you don't want to use their sync service. The flexibility is definitely a huge selling point.
bobbylarrybobby 6y ago
> fully cross platform Does it have a mobile app? This is what’s keeping me on Notion for the time being.
- joshstrange 6y ago
  No it doesn't which is what is keeping me from moving from Notion to it. It's really clean and fast but all the hacks to get access to your notes on mobile (other apps that sort of work with the obsidian data structure) are a turn-off right now. When they do get mobile apps out then I really want to try to move to it.

PedroBatista 6y ago

Probably due to their build bots and employees not being able to communicate through Slack.. ( joking, but.. )

maxclark 6y ago

So Notion's backend DB is actually Slack channels?

dawnerd 6y ago

They blamed AWS > For the last couple hours, Notion has been down. This is related to some difficulties Amazon Web Services is experiencing today. As of right now, our engineering team is all hands on deck working to restore service. We're confident these issues will be resolved soon, but in the meantime I'm so sorry for any problems or inconvenience this has caused. I know this is not ideal as everyone returns from break, and we'll be thoroughly investigating how to prevent outages like this in the future.

bithavoc 6y ago
I received that email but their status page doesn’t mention AWS anywhere, they just reported a fix has been implemented, so not AWS fault after all?

syamilmj 6y ago

Notion is about the only service today out of many other major platforms (see: https://downdetector.com https://downdetector.com) that cared to email me about the downtime. I’ve been a happy Notion user since about a year ago and this is probably the only one time I have experienced major downtime as far as I can remember.

mlacks 6y ago

Is there a way around the issues that cause service interruption? I was using self-hosted until my ISP proved itself to be unreliable, and moved to notion hoping that another host would have an easier time. Same issues - i need to update my CRM and am basically locked out of it until notion figures out the outage problem. is there another similar project that is al little more fault tolerant?