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Amazing! I hope he gets access to the Bitcoin funds Wikileaks got to help him cover the bail and set him on a path to recovery where he can be with all of his f

Amazing! I hope he gets access to the Bitcoin funds Wikileaks got to help him cover the bail and set him on a path to recovery where he can be with all of his family and children after this horrible ordeal. Julian has a very rating personality, that goes without saying, but I cannot see a single erson who is still alive that has done so much to help disclose these atrocious crimes to the Public and has risked his life to help other whistler blowers than him. Our false narrative of heroes don't actually exist, and the resolve and conviction to some of the most impactful things in regards to Freedom of Information and disclosing classified information isn't going to be from some polished Captain America figure. it only makes sense it was from someone like Assange who has pretty much lived his entire life from a young age in some form of activism as a result of his Mother. I'm going to bypass the CCP v US thing as my stance is clear and u/dang has already told me that I take things too far with little to no benefit. But suffice it to say the two are similar but not compatible systems, the US still has the ability to re-direct it's course as it slips further into abject authoritarianism where as the CCP cannot exist without it.

morelisp 6y ago
> I cannot see a single erson who is still alive that has done so much to help disclose these atrocious crimes to the Public and has risked his life to help other whistler blowers than him. Well, Chelsea Manning was the actual whistleblower in this situation. She also went back to jail for refusing to testify against Assange. (Conversely Assange said he would turn himself in if Manning was given clemency, then obviously did not when her first sentence was commuted.) Reality Winner is also still in prison, due to The Intercept's egregious mishandling of her leaks.
- Melting_Harps 6y ago
  > Well, Chelsea Manning was the actual whistleblower in this situation Granted, Manning was the one who provided Wikileaks the files. But, lets not omit that Sara Harrison and Julian were critical in getting Edward out of Hong Kong and his gravitas made the Bitcoin community to go against Satoshi and donated to keep Wikileaks alive and made all of this possible. Cypherpunks are not going to live up to people's ideal image but they sure as hell get a lot done. And Julian is yet another reminder of that fact. > Reality Winner is also still in prison, due to The Intercept's egregious mishandling of her leaks. To be fair it was shared amounts of mishandling [0], which for someone who worked as an NSA contractor in cryptology related fields should have some understanding of OPSEC; but maybe she rished it and hoped they would do it on their end? I'm not victim blaming, and the Intercept clearly dropped the ball and should have sat on it and taken care of this before running it. But this is why I think Defcon and the CCC should be mandatory watching for people in and especially in tech before anyone decides to do involved in 'hacktivism' or anything like it. In fact, in the early days of Bitcoin they wanted to create an anonymous drop for journalists and leaders that would pay bounties to gray/white hats to do go over these kind of things, but this opened the door to so much foul play that it was dropped all together. Still, I hope Reality takes solace in knowing that Trump will be out of office when she gets out, but that her Obama bias was probably not everything she thought it was when you look at the amount of Whistleblower cases that were prosecuted. Either way, I hope she is well and that the Intercept do the honourable thing make amends and give her a well paid role there. 0: https://xorl.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/opsec-fail-reality-winner-the-intercept/ https://xorl.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/opsec-fail-reality-win...
  - morelisp 6y ago
    > someone who worked as an NSA contractor in cryptology related fields She worked at Meade as a linguist during her time as an airman, and after in an even more detached role as a translator. Neither in a cryptology-related field unless you consider the entirety of SIGINT to be cryptology-related (and her contract job wasn't even SIGINT). Leaking should not be reserved for those with technical skills; anonymity is one of the aspects real journalists should consider themselves bound to help their sources with. > her Obama bias Sure, ok, yeah. Whatever dude.
    - Melting_Harps 6y ago
      I saw her title (cryptologic language analyst) in the articles that I read looking into her role(s) [0], but you seem to far more informed than those journalists. > Leaking should not be reserved for those with technical skills; anonymity is one of the aspects real journalists should consider themselves bound to help their sources with. Are you not at all familiar with the relationship Ed had with Glen Greenwald? I taught my mom how to use PGP over text and that was entirely painful, so I can relate, even though the thing is my Life wasn't on the line with the World's biggest intelligence agencies were after me. Journalists have a responsibility to protect their sources, and the Intercept having had Ed, Laura Poitras and Greenwall all on their staff at one point you'd think this would be a part of a basic training. But then again, that may be why they also left? But even as a person with a healthy sense of paranoia and understanding of OPSEC, true anonymity is a pipe-dream in this perverse panopticon that's been created and emphasizes why we need to build another a new Internet. > Sure, ok, yeah. Whatever dude. Shrug... you want to pretend that isn't a massive blind-spot that's up to you. Making heroes out of corrupt members of the State, politicians, is in large part how we got to this situation in the first place. And that includes the normalization of 'rendition' black sites, torture, and 'extra judicial' killings of US Citizens and their children under Obama. 0: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/us/Russian-interference-air-force-leak.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/us/Russian-interference-a...

morelisp 6y ago

> I cannot see a single erson who is still alive that has done so much to help disclose these atrocious crimes to the Public and has risked his life to help other whistler blowers than him. Well, Chelsea Manning was the actual whistleblower in this situation. She also went back to jail for refusing to testify against Assange. (Conversely Assange said he would turn himself in if Manning was given clemency, then obviously did not when her first sentence was commuted.) Reality Winner is also still in prison, due to The Intercept's egregious mishandling of her leaks.

Melting_Harps 6y ago
> Well, Chelsea Manning was the actual whistleblower in this situation Granted, Manning was the one who provided Wikileaks the files. But, lets not omit that Sara Harrison and Julian were critical in getting Edward out of Hong Kong and his gravitas made the Bitcoin community to go against Satoshi and donated to keep Wikileaks alive and made all of this possible. Cypherpunks are not going to live up to people's ideal image but they sure as hell get a lot done. And Julian is yet another reminder of that fact. > Reality Winner is also still in prison, due to The Intercept's egregious mishandling of her leaks. To be fair it was shared amounts of mishandling [0], which for someone who worked as an NSA contractor in cryptology related fields should have some understanding of OPSEC; but maybe she rished it and hoped they would do it on their end? I'm not victim blaming, and the Intercept clearly dropped the ball and should have sat on it and taken care of this before running it. But this is why I think Defcon and the CCC should be mandatory watching for people in and especially in tech before anyone decides to do involved in 'hacktivism' or anything like it. In fact, in the early days of Bitcoin they wanted to create an anonymous drop for journalists and leaders that would pay bounties to gray/white hats to do go over these kind of things, but this opened the door to so much foul play that it was dropped all together. Still, I hope Reality takes solace in knowing that Trump will be out of office when she gets out, but that her Obama bias was probably not everything she thought it was when you look at the amount of Whistleblower cases that were prosecuted. Either way, I hope she is well and that the Intercept do the honourable thing make amends and give her a well paid role there. 0: https://xorl.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/opsec-fail-reality-winner-the-intercept/ https://xorl.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/opsec-fail-reality-win...
- morelisp 6y ago
  > someone who worked as an NSA contractor in cryptology related fields She worked at Meade as a linguist during her time as an airman, and after in an even more detached role as a translator. Neither in a cryptology-related field unless you consider the entirety of SIGINT to be cryptology-related (and her contract job wasn't even SIGINT). Leaking should not be reserved for those with technical skills; anonymity is one of the aspects real journalists should consider themselves bound to help their sources with. > her Obama bias Sure, ok, yeah. Whatever dude.
  - Melting_Harps 6y ago
    I saw her title (cryptologic language analyst) in the articles that I read looking into her role(s) [0], but you seem to far more informed than those journalists. > Leaking should not be reserved for those with technical skills; anonymity is one of the aspects real journalists should consider themselves bound to help their sources with. Are you not at all familiar with the relationship Ed had with Glen Greenwald? I taught my mom how to use PGP over text and that was entirely painful, so I can relate, even though the thing is my Life wasn't on the line with the World's biggest intelligence agencies were after me. Journalists have a responsibility to protect their sources, and the Intercept having had Ed, Laura Poitras and Greenwall all on their staff at one point you'd think this would be a part of a basic training. But then again, that may be why they also left? But even as a person with a healthy sense of paranoia and understanding of OPSEC, true anonymity is a pipe-dream in this perverse panopticon that's been created and emphasizes why we need to build another a new Internet. > Sure, ok, yeah. Whatever dude. Shrug... you want to pretend that isn't a massive blind-spot that's up to you. Making heroes out of corrupt members of the State, politicians, is in large part how we got to this situation in the first place. And that includes the normalization of 'rendition' black sites, torture, and 'extra judicial' killings of US Citizens and their children under Obama. 0: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/us/Russian-interference-air-force-leak.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/us/Russian-interference-a...