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The long thinking aspect of the Chinese government is Chinese propaganda. You see them announcing long term goals and going on giant infrastructure projects, w

The long thinking aspect of the Chinese government is Chinese propaganda. You see them announcing long term goals and going on giant infrastructure projects, which go on to be under used, poorly built e&. China has serious structural issues that the CCP is trying to hide. Massive food, drug and alcohol fraud hurting people (fake alcohol is a HUGE issue). Riots, mass stabbings/attacks, economic slowdown/hardship. All of which the CCP covers up because foreign media can't easily penetrate, and the CCP control the domestic media/narrative. China is a house of lies, they're essentially trying to fake it until they make it.

whoevercares 6y ago
“massive” is somewhat ambiguous and common Chinese citizens would disagree with you that they have “massive” attacks and riots every few days. Fake alcohol WAS an issue that people talked about years ago but it’s rarely heard nowadays.
- BunsanSpace 6y ago
  It's very very common. But when domestic media won't cover it full stop, and even social media is heavily censored, it's hard to tell. My view is based on ex-pats who've shared their experience and did pseudo journalism there.
godtoldmetodoit 6y ago
China is definitely facing some fundamental issues now - #1 being their aging population. Their demographic profile is a major drag on growth and will only get worse over the next few decades. When you have an aging population, the young need to take care of them, and when the old outnumber the young that tends to result in angst as the young are not as well off as those who came before them.
NoOneNew 6y ago
I agree with you about the overblown aspect of long term thinking... but I dont think you can fully discount it. Like it or not, a long term leader does have the benefit of seeing through long term ideas to the fullest. There is a lot of value in that, however that doesn't mean I'm fully convinced that winnie the pooh over there knows a good long term investment even if it threw honey in his face. A lot of their foreign infrastructure investments have been... either great genius we cant comprehend or they're complete idiots. There could be background plays that we'll never know about that actually do make them good maneuvers. As they stand, er, as they crumble from lack of use and maintenance, they dont seem good on the surface. Now, the long term taking stake in foreign entities, that one... that seems smart on the surface. As to what end, dont know and without a long form of discussion isnt practical to talk about here. House of lies... eh, barn full of horseshit if you ask me... but even horseshit has its uses... and flies. So many fucking flies. I hate horses. That and dude yea, the mass stabbings are insane over there.

whoevercares 6y ago

“massive” is somewhat ambiguous and common Chinese citizens would disagree with you that they have “massive” attacks and riots every few days. Fake alcohol WAS an issue that people talked about years ago but it’s rarely heard nowadays.

BunsanSpace 6y ago
It's very very common. But when domestic media won't cover it full stop, and even social media is heavily censored, it's hard to tell. My view is based on ex-pats who've shared their experience and did pseudo journalism there.

godtoldmetodoit 6y ago

China is definitely facing some fundamental issues now - #1 being their aging population. Their demographic profile is a major drag on growth and will only get worse over the next few decades. When you have an aging population, the young need to take care of them, and when the old outnumber the young that tends to result in angst as the young are not as well off as those who came before them.

NoOneNew 6y ago

I agree with you about the overblown aspect of long term thinking... but I dont think you can fully discount it. Like it or not, a long term leader does have the benefit of seeing through long term ideas to the fullest. There is a lot of value in that, however that doesn't mean I'm fully convinced that winnie the pooh over there knows a good long term investment even if it threw honey in his face. A lot of their foreign infrastructure investments have been... either great genius we cant comprehend or they're complete idiots. There could be background plays that we'll never know about that actually do make them good maneuvers. As they stand, er, as they crumble from lack of use and maintenance, they dont seem good on the surface. Now, the long term taking stake in foreign entities, that one... that seems smart on the surface. As to what end, dont know and without a long form of discussion isnt practical to talk about here. House of lies... eh, barn full of horseshit if you ask me... but even horseshit has its uses... and flies. So many fucking flies. I hate horses. That and dude yea, the mass stabbings are insane over there.