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A headline that truly captures the times we live in. There's something poetic about using machine intelligence to detect human stupidity.

by m12k 6y ago

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throwaway80332 6y ago
I can't wait until this technology is perfected so that we can finally put an end to online disinformation for good. Those dangerous idiots actually believe that a billionare pedophile spent decades inviting high-ranking politicians and influential decision makers to his private island for orgies with underage girls, and that when he was arrested he managed to hang himself while on suicide watch in a maximum security prison! They really are that deluded and dangerous. This needs to end, now. The nutcases also believe that the governments are working with big tech to eliminate cash so that anybody who doesn't toe the line can be "permanently cancelled". Have you ever heard anything so ridiculous? I hope in the future we can just have an algorithm that disables the bank account of anybody who spews such divisive nonsense online. There is no place for that kind of hate in a society that strives for any kind of progress.
- jimktrains2 6y ago
  > I can't wait until this technology is perfected so that we can finally put an end to online disinformation for good. Well, first you need to define "disinformation." It's a non-trivial, and probably a concept that's unable to be rigorously defined.
  - swebs 6y ago
    The entire post is sarcasm.
- wrongthoughtbot 6y ago
  No such thing a throwaway account in New Normal. This is an automated public service notice. You'll be happy to know that our AI now has a sarcasm module. You've been detected and will be cancelled. "An obedient population is a happy population" as all experts agree, and you are an obstable to universal happiness.
- umvi 6y ago
  > I can't wait until this technology is perfected so that we can finally put an end to online disinformation for good. In case the sarcasm is not obvious... this will never happen. Determining what is true and what is false will be one of the greatest challenges humans face from here on out. The source of disinformation may be from fellow citizens (conspiracies, memes), or it may be from the government itself (propaganda) or from massive corporations (lobbies, bogus research with predetermined conclusions)
- razius 6y ago
  I truly hope this is sarcasm
  - ignoranceprior 6y ago
    Yeah, it obviously is. But something that irks me about the comment is that it conflates a well-supported conspiracy theory (Epstein, who was actually charged and convicted) and a crazy illuminati-level one (Big Tech eliminating cash to cancel people, huh?), as if they are equally plausible.
    - skocznymroczny 6y ago
      You'll have a nice beta test to observe in 2021, as people who don't take a vaccine will be phased out from the society. Restricting payments seems like a good way to do it.
      - mistermann 6y ago
        How will people who don't take a vaccine be phased out from society? This sounds like a bit of a conspiracy theory to me, but then that by no means proves it as a falsehood. Should I be preparing for a purge of some sort?
        throwaway80332 6y ago
        Of course it will not happen, it is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Nobody is getting phased out, the people who chose to not take the vaccine will just not be able to buy or sell.
        skocznymroczny 6y ago
        not be able to buy, sell, travel anywhere, go to cinema, restaurants, participate in sports events.
    - swebs 6y ago
- boredumb 6y ago
  Do we laugh or cry at how this cannot be immediately discerned as a joke at this point in time.
jimktrains2 6y ago
I think it's counter-productive to label everyone who believes conspiracy theories "stupid". Not only does it make it more difficult to talk to and help change their opinion, it further polarizes use. Sure, I will readily admit that some people are just being obstinate and stupid, but when you have the places you get your news from feeding you misinformation, or worse, feeding you facts, but not all the facts, or the details get lost in transit (e.g. the cdc not recommending masks and then recommending masks), it's not hard to see how some things become ideas. We can't help correct misconceptions if we believe they're driven solely by stupidity.
- lez 6y ago
  I think trying to "help change their opinion" or "help correct misconceptions" is also counter-productive. Just accept that they have a different opinion and deal with that. It can be a challenge, but you can't avoid dealing with other ppl's different opinions. It's life.
  - MereInterest 6y ago
    The problem comes when their misconceptions have consequences to those around them. If somebody consistently swaps "left" and "right", that is fairly harmless until they start driving on the wrong side of the road. If somebody believes that there is a child sex ring operating out of a pizza parlor, that belief is fairly harmless until they take a gun to that pizza parlor.
    - lez 6y ago
      That's exactly what I mean by challenge. But you have no other options. You can't force someone to honestly change opinion, that's impossible.
  - TeaDrunk 6y ago
    How do you deal with a different opinion that dehumanizes people? Eg. If I'm a trans person how do I not attempt to correct the misconception that "trans panic" is a socially acceptable justification to murder me?

A headline that truly captures the times we live in. There's something poetic about using machine intelligence to detect human stupidity.

by m12k 6y ago

A headline that truly captures the times we live in. There's something poetic about using machine intelligence to detect human stupidity.

deleted 6y ago

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throwaway80332 6y ago

I can't wait until this technology is perfected so that we can finally put an end to online disinformation for good. Those dangerous idiots actually believe that a billionare pedophile spent decades inviting high-ranking politicians and influential decision makers to his private island for orgies with underage girls, and that when he was arrested he managed to hang himself while on suicide watch in a maximum security prison! They really are that deluded and dangerous. This needs to end, now. The nutcases also believe that the governments are working with big tech to eliminate cash so that anybody who doesn't toe the line can be "permanently cancelled". Have you ever heard anything so ridiculous? I hope in the future we can just have an algorithm that disables the bank account of anybody who spews such divisive nonsense online. There is no place for that kind of hate in a society that strives for any kind of progress.

jimktrains2 6y ago
> I can't wait until this technology is perfected so that we can finally put an end to online disinformation for good. Well, first you need to define "disinformation." It's a non-trivial, and probably a concept that's unable to be rigorously defined.
- swebs 6y ago
  The entire post is sarcasm.
wrongthoughtbot 6y ago
No such thing a throwaway account in New Normal. This is an automated public service notice. You'll be happy to know that our AI now has a sarcasm module. You've been detected and will be cancelled. "An obedient population is a happy population" as all experts agree, and you are an obstable to universal happiness.
umvi 6y ago
> I can't wait until this technology is perfected so that we can finally put an end to online disinformation for good. In case the sarcasm is not obvious... this will never happen. Determining what is true and what is false will be one of the greatest challenges humans face from here on out. The source of disinformation may be from fellow citizens (conspiracies, memes), or it may be from the government itself (propaganda) or from massive corporations (lobbies, bogus research with predetermined conclusions)
razius 6y ago
I truly hope this is sarcasm
- ignoranceprior 6y ago
  Yeah, it obviously is. But something that irks me about the comment is that it conflates a well-supported conspiracy theory (Epstein, who was actually charged and convicted) and a crazy illuminati-level one (Big Tech eliminating cash to cancel people, huh?), as if they are equally plausible.
  - skocznymroczny 6y ago
    You'll have a nice beta test to observe in 2021, as people who don't take a vaccine will be phased out from the society. Restricting payments seems like a good way to do it.
    - mistermann 6y ago
      How will people who don't take a vaccine be phased out from society? This sounds like a bit of a conspiracy theory to me, but then that by no means proves it as a falsehood. Should I be preparing for a purge of some sort?
      - throwaway80332 6y ago
        Of course it will not happen, it is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Nobody is getting phased out, the people who chose to not take the vaccine will just not be able to buy or sell.
        skocznymroczny 6y ago
        not be able to buy, sell, travel anywhere, go to cinema, restaurants, participate in sports events.
  - swebs 6y ago
boredumb 6y ago
Do we laugh or cry at how this cannot be immediately discerned as a joke at this point in time.

jimktrains2 6y ago

I think it's counter-productive to label everyone who believes conspiracy theories "stupid". Not only does it make it more difficult to talk to and help change their opinion, it further polarizes use. Sure, I will readily admit that some people are just being obstinate and stupid, but when you have the places you get your news from feeding you misinformation, or worse, feeding you facts, but not all the facts, or the details get lost in transit (e.g. the cdc not recommending masks and then recommending masks), it's not hard to see how some things become ideas. We can't help correct misconceptions if we believe they're driven solely by stupidity.

lez 6y ago
I think trying to "help change their opinion" or "help correct misconceptions" is also counter-productive. Just accept that they have a different opinion and deal with that. It can be a challenge, but you can't avoid dealing with other ppl's different opinions. It's life.
- MereInterest 6y ago
  The problem comes when their misconceptions have consequences to those around them. If somebody consistently swaps "left" and "right", that is fairly harmless until they start driving on the wrong side of the road. If somebody believes that there is a child sex ring operating out of a pizza parlor, that belief is fairly harmless until they take a gun to that pizza parlor.
  - lez 6y ago
    That's exactly what I mean by challenge. But you have no other options. You can't force someone to honestly change opinion, that's impossible.
- TeaDrunk 6y ago
  How do you deal with a different opinion that dehumanizes people? Eg. If I'm a trans person how do I not attempt to correct the misconception that "trans panic" is a socially acceptable justification to murder me?