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There is plenty of evidence that I've seen firsthand in municipal government of unions protecting and promoting incompetent IT talent. It doesn't all fall to @#
by lr4444lr 6y ago
There is plenty of evidence that I've seen firsthand in municipal government of unions protecting and promoting incompetent IT talent. It doesn't all fall to @#$& solely because government tech is often very slow to change, so mediocre workers can train on very specific applications and not need much continuing ed. I scarcely ever met one that would get hired at either a FAANG or a tech startup. I will qualify this by saying it's U.S. only. Maybe other countries handle this all much better, but we're dealing with Google U.S. in this story.
- flr03 6y agoWhere is the evidence?
- pydry 6y agoGiven the amount of incompetent talent I've seen promoted without a union because they cozy up to management I have a really hard time believing the picture would be any worse with them. Meritocracy is orthogonal to unionization, I think, though I doubt there's an employer in the world that doesn't believe that their decisions are entirely meritocratic. The argument "[institution]* tends to towards corruption therefore we shouldn't have [institution]" is a logical fallacy in all cases, since all human institutions tend towards corruption but we still need them. * replace [institution] with government, government department, police, corporations, unions, etc. and the fallacy remains the same.
- tempuser189 6y agoOh trust me, it gets much much worse after unionization, since businesses have little ability to let go of unproductive workers.
- pydry 6y agoWell, sure. Nothing says trustworthy like a brand new anonymous user saying "trust me".
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- whimsicalism 6y agoI agree that government tech is usually pretty not great, but I am not sure if that has to do with unions per se or perhaps the government's antiquated pay scales/lack of civil service exam.