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How come you think this union is imbued with "ideological fervor" but not the myriads of investors, executes, and other people who already controls Google? Per
by bjourne 6y ago
How come you think this union is imbued with "ideological fervor" but not the myriads of investors, executes, and other people who already controls Google?
Perhaps Google already is a tool of the cancel culture (cue the X-files intro music)?
- choeger 6y agoSimple. These other people never made such claims in an article.
- beebmam 6y agoDo people who don't publish their views not filled with ideological fervor? This isn't an argument...
- darkerside 6y agoI believe the claim here is that, people should have rights to their own strong ideological opinions, but not the right to enforce their own upon others.
- logicchains 6y ago> Do people who don't publish their views not filled with ideological fervor? I mean, that's pretty much exactly what fervour means? We'd never say "Joe is a fervent supporter of X!" if Joe never talked about X.
- thrill 6y ago"We" would do, and frequently have done, just that if it supports "our" agenda. Hence the rise of the use of such broad brushes as "silence is complicity", etc.
- oh_sigh 6y agoIs "pragmatically want a return on investment" ideological fervor? Words need to mean something at some point.
- eeZah7Ux 6y agoThe idea that a certain pattern of economic behaviors is "pragmatic", "non-ideological" and even "non-political", while others are, is in itself a good example of ideology.
- Veelox 6y agoFrom the official union website's list of values > Social and economic justice are paramount to achieving just outcomes. We will prioritize the needs of the worst off. Neutrality never helps the victim. For my eyes, that is absolutely dripping with progressive ideology. If I am going a union I want it to be non-political. This seems more like a progressive advocating group than a software workers guild. Count me out.
- throwaway3699 6y ago"Just outcomes" is a huge signal for prioritizing equity over equality. Other than the obvious political ramifications, it probably means high performers and low performers alike will both get the same outcome from a union, leading to mediocrity overall.
- cosmiccatnap 6y agoIf wanting the world to be a better place is an ideology then I suppose call me an idealist. It shouldn't be political to say killing is wrong and we do alot of it directly or indirectly. You're welcome to call that what you want, I just think of it as civil and just, if you wish to call that progressive I could easily call things to the contrary regressive.